Nothing new in Eucharistic document?

By Phil Lawler (bio - articles ) | Oct 08, 2003

If John Allen of the National Catholic Reporter is right-- and when it comes to getting straight facts from the Vatican, he usually is-- the forthcoming "disciplinary" document on the Eucharist will contain very little that is new or surprising.

(Go here and scroll down to the bottom for Allen's coverage of the Eucharistic document-- although his thoughts on the new cardinals, at the top of the column, are also quite interesting.)

Again, if Allen is right, something has happened in Rome. Every early indication-- including the leaked stories that surfaced a couple of weeks ago-- suggested that this document would have some real impact. Has the Roman Curia decided against the stronger medicine?

Phil Lawler has been a Catholic journalist for more than 30 years. He has edited several Catholic magazines and written eight books. Founder of Catholic World News, he is the news director and lead analyst at See full bio.

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  • Posted by: - Oct. 08, 2003 9:17 PM ET USA

    The odds of the Pope coming down hard on the crypto-schismatics in our Church are only slightly better than the odds of a split in the Anglican Communion. I wouldn't bet on either.

  • Posted by: - Oct. 08, 2003 7:45 PM ET USA

    Why consider bolting to SSPXI or the Orthodox when you can just start worshipping at an Eastern Catholic Church? You will still be with Rome and you can worship with awe and reverence, praising The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, showing your love and devotion to the Blessed Virgin, and pleading for God's mercy without altar girls, Eucharistic "ministers," guitars, holding hands, hugging, kissing, etc., etc. No old nuns delivering the homily, either! Try it - you'll like it!

  • Posted by: - Oct. 08, 2003 4:23 PM ET USA

    My goodness, why not just abandon this ship and go over to the SSPXI or to the Orthodox? With all that I have read and experienced through this site and in my own parish, and study why stay? Modernism reigning rampant, bishops and clergy that don’t believe in their Church, lesbian nuns, apathy, homosexuality, a bureaucratic hierarchy, scandals, secrets! What is difference between the world and the Church? Is this the Church of Sardis Rev:3? Some one please help!

  • Posted by: - Oct. 08, 2003 11:00 AM ET USA

    Seems the Curia bow to negative pressure and the early release of a draft of the document seems to have effectively neutered it. Similarly in Canada if the local bishops howl loud enough at the proposal of an orthodox bishop, the Vatican will not make the appointment. The strategy seems to be to wait it out, leaving the See vacant. That works in the Vatican's favour when an important See is left without a bishop. When the local bishops relent we are blessed with a fine man like Ouellet