By Diogenes (articles ) | Sep 29, 2005

Pittsburgh priests -- thinking Catholics -- have been brainstorming about the clergy crisis and come up with some innovative,"outside the box" ideas for RENEWAL:

"Our feelings [center?] around the need to bring discussion about optional celibacy, and the possibility of ordaining married men to the priesthood, and the possibility of ordaining women as deacons or perhaps as priests," said Father Garrett Dorsey, of the Association of Pittsburgh Priests."

Wow. Why has no one ever thought of this before? If she ordained women and married men, the Catholic Church might get her act together on a par with her progressive sister ECUSA, and we all know how successful THAT is.

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  • Posted by: Eleazar - Oct. 03, 2005 10:44 AM ET USA

    Murphy: The Association of Pittsburgh Priests is a demonstrably leftist organization, supporting optional celibacy and a married clergy, among other heresies. I know one of the priests quoted in the KDKA article...he is your typical "radical priest, circa. 1965. From my perspective, the whole group is rotten to the core.

  • Posted by: Charles134 - Sep. 30, 2005 6:30 PM ET USA

    Special ops Sacerdotas, Here's the link:

  • Posted by: Fr. William - Sep. 30, 2005 5:29 PM ET USA

    Charles, surely you are being facetious in your blog. ie, A bishop MUST bring his own diocese into full communion with Rome. He's the "glue" to the Holy Father & the One Magisterium. The USCCB, as a body of bishops, is not in communion with Rome. As long as Cdls. Mahony & McCarrick, Abps. Pilarczyk & Gregory, & Bps. Trautman & Skylstad & many other bishops who say/do traitorous things are not retired, the bishops will not only NOT be on the same page, they will not even be in the same book!

  • Posted by: Charles134 - Sep. 30, 2005 2:35 PM ET USA

    Bishop Wuerl will probably want to run this before all the US bishops before acting on it. I'm sure Wuerl wants to discipline this dissident for the good of his own soul and to avoid giving scandal to the faithful, but it would be imprudent to take any action (besides refusing, through his chancery, permission to have the Novus Ordo said in Latin anywhere in his diocese) without first consulting the other bishops. They all need to be on the same page, otherwise the faithful might get confused.

  • Posted by: - Sep. 30, 2005 12:08 PM ET USA

    To Eleazar: "That he has suspended ALL active clergy members..."? Surely You don't mean the good ones, do you?

  • Posted by: Eleazar - Sep. 30, 2005 10:16 AM ET USA

    The only thing that I want to hear from Bishop Wuerl is that: a) he has suspended from priestly ministry all active clergy members; and b) he has imposed an interdict on the reception of the sacraments on the whole, sorry lot. I am not, however, holding my breath.

  • Posted by: - Sep. 30, 2005 9:20 AM ET USA

    To answer Carismater, the answer is no because they deliberately do know what they are doing. Jesus has already assured their failure.

  • Posted by: Fr. William - Sep. 30, 2005 12:25 AM ET USA

    Indeed, "Father" Garrett must be confused about his "association." By espousing such dissent from Church Teaching & by sowing such seeds of confusion, "Father" Garrett is publicly proclaiming that he is no longer in communion with the Roman Catholic Church & the One Magisterium. He is now free to board the flaming plane (photo courtesy of Diogenes) & live out his self-indulgent fantasies in the Episcopalian church. Any chance that we might hear from Pittsburgh's Bishop Wuerl on this one?

  • Posted by: Charles134 - Sep. 29, 2005 11:04 PM ET USA

    Wasn't Pittsburgh just mentioned elsewhere on this site because a seminary administrator said something idiotic about homosexuality? It's great to be back in the Burgh. At least Mario seems healthy. The good news is that the "Association of Pittsburgh Priests" represents only about 10% of Pittsburgh's priests. According to a NCDistorter article, a third of its members are resigned priests, their wives (or gay lovers, one assumes), and lay peope. So it's just another dissident group.

  • Posted by: TheJournalist64 - Sep. 29, 2005 7:56 PM ET USA

    So what is this man's defense? He's either an idiot or an incompetent, or perhaps both? We are surrounded, but their ranks are being thinned by Sister Death.

  • Posted by: - Sep. 29, 2005 4:34 PM ET USA

    What a joke. If they were formed during a period of widespread seminary dysfunction can we safely say "Forgive them, they know not what they are doing."? If you think you're offended, think of their parishioners.