magistra, si?

By Diogenes (articles ) | Nov 21, 2007

From Maryland comes yet another while-you-weren't-paying-attention story about Catholic priests who just happen to be women. You don't need to read it (by now you could probably write it yourself), but the lede raises an interesting point:

Priest Andrea Johnson of Annapolis, dressed in a white robe, the red swirls on her sash rippling like water, lifts a goblet of wine to offer Holy Communion at the Stony Run Friends meetinghouse in North Baltimore on Nov. 12. Behind her, Deacon Gloria Carpeneto of Catonsville offers grape juice and gluten-free rice cakes to those on restricted diets.

So we've got priests who aren't priests offering food-stuffs that couldn't be consecrated even if they were. Here's my question: does there exist a woman priest or a supporter of women's ordination who would discountenance the Eucharistic use of rice cakes and grape juice as invalid? Does anyone in fact maintain the Church is wrong about valid matter in the one instance and right about it in the other? If so, it would be interesting to hear the arguments for the Church's authority in the case where she's got it right.

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  • Posted by: - Nov. 22, 2007 8:36 AM ET USA

    "We are not afraid. The energy has taken us to a new place." When has Hell become a "new place"?

  • Posted by: - Nov. 21, 2007 8:13 PM ET USA

    I'm waiting to see what Archbishop Burke does. I suspect something is in the horizen. I also suspect Archbishop O'Brien is waiting to coordinate action with Burke here. At least I hope he is and is not just ignoring it and hoping it will go away.

  • Posted by: - Nov. 21, 2007 4:49 PM ET USA

    Hey, rice cakes and grape juice, doritos and beer, cheesecake and latte...the watchword for the women's ordination movement is ...Whatever! It defines their creed as well, in other words, there isn't one - unless silliness is a creed. Does anybody take these aging ladies seriously?

  • Posted by: - Nov. 21, 2007 4:40 PM ET USA

    To even ask these questions is to misunderstand the nature of this phenomenon. "Valid" and "invalid" are not in the vocabulary of this movement. Those who submit to these bogus "ordinations," as well as those who participate is subsequent services, are not motivated by anything resembling religiosity, nor are their concerns at all spiritual. In this reality, everything is political: "Someone says I can't do something they can do." In their own minds, God has nothing to do with this.