I'm central, you're central

By Diogenes (articles ) | Jul 16, 2007

Hearty congratulations are apparently due to St. Augustine, whose works provided "hints" of the wisdom that has now come to completion in a Boston Globe op-ed by James Carroll, with the modest title "Pope Benedict's Mistake."

Carroll-- once a Paulist priest, now a paid Catholic-basher who still claims to be a Catholic says this about the truth of the faith he professes to profess:

Once our internal geography recognizes that, however much we are a center, we are not the only one, we have no choice but to affirm the positions of others not as "marginal to our centers," in a phrase of theologian David Tracy, "but as centers of their own."

Is that what St. Augustine was hinting at in the City of God? Can't say that I see it. But what would I know? I merely say the Nicene Creed, assuming that the words mean what the words mean, whereas James Carroll is "alive to its meaning in a radically different way."

This much I have learned from the Globe's theologian. He's not on the margin of my center. He's in a center all his own.

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  • Posted by: - Jul. 17, 2007 7:58 PM ET USA

    This adds new depth of meaning to the term "self-centered".

  • Posted by: - Jul. 17, 2007 10:10 AM ET USA

    So man, like we should listen to a hippy leftover?

  • Posted by: - Jul. 17, 2007 3:00 AM ET USA

    Dear James, Of course the Apostles didn't think they were establishing a Church; Jesus did that. And I'm really glad the NT was canonized before you got a hold of it or half it would be thrown out as too rigid. And if there is no "one, true Church" (no matter where you believe it is) then the Lord has abandoned his people.

  • Posted by: - Jul. 16, 2007 11:58 PM ET USA

    In a way, the article is correct... You do not win hearts by boasting of your own :"centrality" and then fail to acknowledge any truth in the other. A kind of attitude that implies "I am all right and you are all wrong" is repulsive, and that without even allowing for hypocrisy.

  • Posted by: - Jul. 16, 2007 4:03 PM ET USA


  • Posted by: - Jul. 16, 2007 2:03 PM ET USA

    That Carroll is incompetent in his writing as well as malicious toward our Catholic faith is beyond question.How then do we maintain our peace when exposed to his toxic prose? I find it helpful to regard his ranting attacks as purifications permitted by God for the good of the soul. Jim Carroll of the Boston Globe: the ascetical path to detachment !

  • Posted by: - Jul. 16, 2007 11:01 AM ET USA

    "internal geography!" What a phrase! I can't wait till Father Jungy-Freud uses that in a homily soon. I'll know where he got it. Amazing what one learns from ex-Paulist priests who cook tripe for the Boston Globe. It is even sometimes amazing what one learns from Paulist priests period.

  • Posted by: - Jul. 16, 2007 10:54 AM ET USA

    Carroll is like the Rev. Thomas Reese, a tedious, uninformed (Benedict's actions were "unexpected"???) hack, who axe-grinding just goes on and on and on and on.........................

  • Posted by: - Jul. 16, 2007 9:39 AM ET USA

    Carroll is an imbecile. His thrust that science has since raced past us since Trent shows he knows neither science nor religion. Roman Catholicism, for all its mistakes with scientists, is the only religion that treats science - our ability to know and - as a gift from God. The Catholic ethicists' arguments are founded in hard science, not the hopes of interest groups. Perhaps the personalities of the popes and scientists played a bigger role in the past. Maybe Carroll should read history.

  • Posted by: - Jul. 16, 2007 9:24 AM ET USA

    I was unaware we get to be our own centers now. However, this is certainly consistent with the "me-first" relativistic culture that was once a civilization.