growing, growing, gone

By Diogenes (articles ) | Jun 22, 2006

CR's David Hartline covered the Episcopal General Convention and interviewed (among others) Susan Russell, president of the gay-rights group Integrity, and New Hampshire's celebrated Bishop Gene Robinson. The following quotes, unfairly wrenched out of the larger context, deserve to be engraved over the entrance to the Mausoleum of Liberal Religion (tip to Amy):

Dave Hartline: Statistically the liberal or progressive wing of the Episcopal Church or the Catholic Church for that matter isn't growing. Why?

Rev. Susan Russell: It is growing. I am sure you have been told it is not but I can tell you it is. I am from Los Angeles and in West Hollywood and Pasadena our churches are doing very well.

She's got you there, Dave.

Dave Hartline: What are your views on abortion? The reason I ask is I have worked with people in the Catholic Church that I knew to be homosexual, and as liberal or progressive as some were, many seemed to be pro-life. They seemed to equate the unborn with their situation. I don't see that here. How do you feel?

Bishop Robinson: Well, I can certainly understand those you spoke of equating their situation with those in the womb. However, I believe in the Episcopal Church's teachings. I believe in viability. I don't counsel women to have an abortion past the first trimester. My advice has always been if you are going to get an abortion do it quick.

Nice move, Gene! The pastoral approach: "What you are about to do, do quickly." Rightly understood, it's a growth-filled experience.

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  • Posted by: popsk - Jun. 23, 2006 1:41 PM ET USA

    I pray to God -- what you are going to do, do quickly!

  • Posted by: - Jun. 23, 2006 10:45 AM ET USA

    Party of the beauty of commenting here is knowing that the readers of Commonweal's blog are gnashing their teeth at every utterance. Be not afraid.

  • Posted by: - Jun. 23, 2006 10:07 AM ET USA

    The beach scene reminds me of the movie "Weekend at Bernie's".

  • Posted by: parochus - Jun. 23, 2006 6:25 AM ET USA

    JARay, I think Shakespeare got it from John 13:27. . .

  • Posted by: - Jun. 23, 2006 3:36 AM ET USA

    The Russell sphere of concern certainly doesn't extend very far beyond her enclave -- call it a self-marginalization. Heaven be praised. As for Robinson, one wonders how he can even call himself a disciple of Christ without his facade fracturing into a million little pieces. Most disturbing of all is that these subversives no longer believe it necessary to conduct their sabotage clandestinely. Perhaps they are winning, if only in West Hollywood, with its large, transient Jesuit population.

  • Posted by: - Jun. 23, 2006 12:08 AM ET USA

    C'mon Susan! Let's go play church on the beach. I got a new shirt. You'll love it.

  • Posted by: Meg Q - Jun. 22, 2006 7:26 PM ET USA

    If they wear tuxedos, is it a Clown High Mass?

  • Posted by: opraem - Jun. 22, 2006 6:34 PM ET USA

    while the text is episcopalian, are you sure the pictures aren't from the realm of his eminence roger mahony? weren't the two clowns in front of the altar an opening act at the latest religious education conference?

  • Posted by: JARay - Jun. 22, 2006 6:07 PM ET USA

    "If t'were done, when 'tis done, then t'were well t'were done quickly" ..Lady Macbeth to Macbeth (Wm Shakespeare) ......She was counselling her husband to get on with a murder. Did Bishop Robinson get his counselling skills from the same source?

  • Posted by: - Jun. 22, 2006 12:36 PM ET USA

    Look, kids. Its a Moulin Rouge Mass.

  • Posted by: - Jun. 22, 2006 11:57 AM ET USA

    It's good to learn that the first defense against the inroads of Islamicism may be found in Los Angeles, West Hollywood and Pasedena. Why wasn't San Francisco mentioned? Moreover, isn't there an Episcopalian prelate also in LA by the name of what?...Mahoney? Roger Ma..honey?

  • Posted by: rpp - Jun. 22, 2006 11:38 AM ET USA

    Interesting quotes. Very revealing, even if you have, admittedly, removed the context. I do like the photos. I guess it started raining after the first photo was taken so the celebrants moved inside.

  • Posted by: - Jun. 22, 2006 11:08 AM ET USA

    Who are these people? What a travesty! All we need is a tsunami and an earthquake to remedy these erroneous actions quickly.