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87—The Jester Is Not The King—Jeremy McLellan

By Thomas V. Mirus ( bio - articles - email ) | Oct 05, 2020 | In The Catholic Culture Podcast

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Jeremy McLellan is a Catholic stand-up comedian who, strangely, is huge is Pakistan. He joins the show to discuss the woke takeover of comedy, the relationship between comedy and truth, humor in processing pain, and the ethics of the word “retarded”. Thomas describes his past experience doing open mics and Jeremy gives him some pointers.


[0:33] “Do CHILDREN Belong in Church?”

[2:47] The woke takeover of comedy; contrarianism and nihilism; comedy and truth

[12:30] The dogma of comedians: anything goes to get a laugh

[19:50] Jeremy and Thomas compare notes on open mics

[27:28] The comic must draw the audience into his world

[33:07] Jeremy’s conversion to Catholicism and relationship with his large Muslim audience

[43:25] The best joke Jeremy has ever heard

[47:08] The taboo on the word “retarded”

[57:51] Comedy and trauma; processing pain through humor

[1:02:22] The danger of identifying with our sins and pathologies


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Uncomfortable Jokes and Endless Euphemisms w/ Jeremy McLellan [14:23]
Catholic comedian Jeremy McLellan recounts the funniest joke he ever heard, which was told by a guy with Down’s Syndrome. Then, reflecting on his experience working with people with mental disabilities, he suggests that one reason for the endlessly changing euphemisms for disabilities is not so much a desire to be inclusive, but discomfort with the very existence of disability and the disabled. So long as disabled people are not included in mainstream society, but segregated and shunted off, we will attempt to put a band-aid on the problem by coming up new, ever-more-sensitive terms for THEM. Clip from episode 87 of the Catholic Culture Podcast, “The Jester Is Not The King” with Jeremy McLellan.

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Thomas V. Mirus is a pianist living in New York City. He is Director of Podcasts for, hosts The Catholic Culture Podcast, and co-hosts Criteria: The Catholic Film Podcast. See full bio.

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