87—The Jester Is Not The King—Jeremy McLellan
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Jeremy McLellan is a Catholic stand-up comedian who, strangely, is huge is Pakistan. He joins the show to discuss the woke takeover of comedy, the relationship between comedy and truth, humor in processing pain, and the ethics of the word “retarded”. Thomas describes his past experience doing open mics and Jeremy gives him some pointers.
[0:33] “Do CHILDREN Belong in Church?”
[2:47] The woke takeover of comedy; contrarianism and nihilism; comedy and truth
[12:30] The dogma of comedians: anything goes to get a laugh
[19:50] Jeremy and Thomas compare notes on open mics
[27:28] The comic must draw the audience into his world
[33:07] Jeremy’s conversion to Catholicism and relationship with his large Muslim audience
[43:25] The best joke Jeremy has ever heard
[47:08] The taboo on the word “retarded”
[57:51] Comedy and trauma; processing pain through humor
[1:02:22] The danger of identifying with our sins and pathologies
Jeremy McLellan’s YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/user/underthefigtree
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