Action Alert!

106—Abortion-Linked Vaccines: A Moral Analysis—Michael Pakaluk, Jay Richards

By Catholic Culture Podcast ( bio - articles - email ) | May 27, 2021 | In The Catholic Culture Podcast

Listen to this podcast on: Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | RSS Feed | YouTube Channel

This is a listener-supported podcast! Thanks for your help!

Michael Pakaluk and Jay Richards join host Thomas V. Mirus for a discussion of the moral issues involved with the production and testing of vaccines using illicitly-obtained fetal cell lines, and the reasons for freedom of conscience for those who do not wish to take them.


Transcript of this episode

Thomas Mirus’s apology and retractions

Church documents discussed:

Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Dignitas Personae (relevant paragraphs are 34-35)

CDF, Note on the morality of using some anti-Covid-19 Vaccines (2020)

The Pontifical Academy for Life’s 2005 statement on vaccines, emphasizing freedom of conscience

Commentary discussed:

“To Awaken Conscience”

Michael Pakaluk, “Why I Signed ‘To Awaken Conscience’”

Jose Trasancos, “The Cell Lines Used for COVID-19 Vaccines Came from Carefully Planned Abortions, Not Miscarriages”

Bishops Schneider, Strickland, et al, “COVID Vaccines: ‘The Ends Cannot Justify the Means’”

Ethics & Public Policy Center, “Statement from Pro-Life Catholic Scholars on the Moral Acceptability of Receiving COVID-19 Vaccines”

Roberto de Mattei, On the Moral Liceity of the Vaccination

Richards, Briggs, and Axe; The Price of Panic: How the Tyranny of Experts Turned a Pandemic into a Catastrophe

Theme music: “Franciscan Eyes”, written and performed by Thomas Mirus. Download the Catholic Culture Podcast soundtrack.

Thomas V. Mirus is Director of Podcasts for, hosts The Catholic Culture Podcast, and co-hosts Criteria: The Catholic Film Podcast. See full bio.

Sound Off! supporters weigh in.

All comments are moderated. To lighten our editing burden, only current donors are allowed to Sound Off. If you are a current donor, log in to see the comment form; otherwise please support our work, and Sound Off!

  • Posted by: Thomas V. Mirus - May. 28, 2021 5:04 PM ET USA

    Kevin, thanks very much for your comment. I'm sorry you were coerced. I would think threat of job loss suffices for grave reason as far as your conscience is concerned, but it's still terrible.

  • Posted by: Kevin01 - May. 27, 2021 7:02 PM ET USA

    Simply put, great work. Listen to this before it gets memory holed. This podcast has become my favorite. It was painful listening to me because I immediately regretted getting the vaccine. I was one of the first "offered" (coerced on threat of job loss) in early January as a healthcare provider with a very high viral load exposure. Like Thomas, I read the CDF statement in a very simple way. And prudentially, I was by far sicker from the shot than the virus.