the conscious active tense

By Diogenes ( articles ) | Oct 13, 2006

"This would make it much more difficult for people to engage in full conscious and active participation, which was the goal of the Council," says Rev. James Martin, an editor at the Jesuit magazine America.

He's talking to Time magazine, in a story about the rumored papal indult allowing broader use of the Tridentine rite. But it's not entirely clear what worried Fr. Martin.

Even if we grant his major premise, for the sake of the argument, it's still not easy to see how my attendance at a Latin Mass would prevent your "conscious and active participation" at the LifeTeen liturgy.

Wait. I think I'm getting the picture. The notion that someone, just two or three towns over, was kneeling quietly and listening to prayers in Latin-- that realization would be so grievously troubling to you that you'd be distracted, and unable to dance to the beat of the Offertory macarena?

Or could it be an even more frightening nightmare? Might you be imagining that next Sunday, some of those nervous-looking middle-aged couples might not be at the LifeTeen Mass? That they might actually choose the bad old Latin Mass?

Because that cannot be allowed. Everyone must participate consciously and actively. Do you hear me? Smile, everyone; we're having fun! OK, now, all together, everybody sing!

I can't hear you!

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  • Posted by: GraciesMom5112 - Sep. 30, 2010 10:56 PM ET USA

    It’s so sad that so many priests were infected with this “don’t offend anyone and just accept everything” kind of thinking. It confuses people when the pastor is one of the dissidents rather than the voice of reason. We’d better get back to praying for them all – priests, bishops and all who serve our Church

  • Posted by: GraciesMom5112 - Sep. 30, 2010 10:55 PM ET USA

    I’m with ‘ya, Hal. . . sometimes it seems our Cardinal IS too permissive. But then, what can he do? Consider for a moment that a majority of our priests in ArchChicago are the result of poor training in seminary. The exceptions seem to be those ordained 40+ yeasr ago and those ordained in the last 10 years. So, if the Cardinal censured all of those who are misbehaving and leading their flocks astray with nonsense, he’d be left with only newly ordained and retired priests!

  • Posted by: Hal - Sep. 30, 2010 10:15 AM ET USA

    Yeah, all that may be true, but Cardinal George has brought a lot of this on himself by his public support of Father Pfleger, for example. He can't have it all ways.

  • Posted by: - Sep. 29, 2010 4:12 PM ET USA

    It is good to see humility in a priest. And good to see a priest obedient and respectful to the teachings of his Church. And better for that priest not to act as a fatuous ham actor. And as a pastor not to create just another cute progressive neo-Protestant parish. Too bad that priest is not Fr. Larry McNally, and the parish not Ascension in Oak Park, Illinois. It's a shame when apostasy trumps virtue.