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Partial Recognition -- or, "We are no longer at the position of Leo XIII"

By Diogenes (articles ) | May 13, 2004 8:02 AM

Episcopal Bishop Otis Charles, formerly married to a woman and the father of five children, ties the knot with his companion Felipe Sanchez Paris in San Francisco (via Jeff Miller):

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Meanwhile, ecumenical innovation goes forward apace:

[Cardinal Walter Kasper, Prefect of the Pontifical Council for Christian Unity] spoke of 'a new re-evaluation of Apostolicae Curae.' After the conference he said, 'I think it should not be so difficult to come to almost a partial recognition of the episcopal ministry on both sides. We are no longer at the position of Leo XIII with his bull. A partial recognition is there.

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  • Posted by: AveMaria580 - May. 14, 2004 11:01 AM ET USA

    Maybe Cardinal Kasper could marry Holyroller's Labrador Retriever.

  • Posted by: - May. 14, 2004 10:15 AM ET USA

    Yes..you CAN marry your labrador retriever, your father or your sister, and as to polygamy, the sky's the limit. Any Episcopal priest in San Francisco will be happy to concoct a "blessing" for any arrangement of human/animal/inanimate anatomy you wish to propose. As long as you're sincere.

  • Posted by: - May. 13, 2004 9:25 PM ET USA

    Cardinal Kasper has been a "problem child" for many years...If the photo of Episcopal Bishop Otis Charles does not curdle his blood, then nothing will. Let's face it, Cardinal Kasper and many cardinals/bishops are not concerned with preserving the true teachings of the Roman Catholic Church. Rather, I believe that they desire to destroy the Church.

  • Posted by: - May. 13, 2004 8:50 PM ET USA

    I don't know what is more "puke inducing": "Bishop" Otis and his boy-lover for life or the heretical beliefs of Cardinal Kasper and the blind eye and deaf ear his errors receive from the Holy Father who made him a cardinal and keeps him in office.

  • Posted by: Gil125 - May. 13, 2004 7:38 PM ET USA

    That's the Chronicle picture I referred to a couple of weeks ago when their graces were "married" and so many of you reacted with outrage. I said I had chuckled over it for several minutes over my morning coffee. See what I mean?

  • Posted by: AveMaria580 - May. 13, 2004 6:16 PM ET USA

    Truly nauseating. Maybe the bishops should mandate a month long retreat with the stipulation that everyone mediate on the first three chapters of the letter to the Romans. The theme of the retreat could be "Dogs returning to their vomit."

  • Posted by: - May. 13, 2004 12:20 PM ET USA

    "...it has nothing to do with gender and everything to do with love." Just change the word gender to species and then answer me this-Can I marry my Labrador retreiever?

  • Posted by: - May. 13, 2004 10:57 AM ET USA

    you can use all the big words you want....but the only ones I think apply are ....puke inducing......

  • Posted by: - May. 13, 2004 8:54 AM ET USA

    Episcopalians are big on Carl Jung's ideas of archetypes. Oddly enough, they don't seem to understand that installing homosexual bishops sets up an "archetype" of infertility over their dwindling denomination. They don't see how the sterile perversion of their bishops translates into a barren soil incapable of future growth. Let Catholics beware.

  • Posted by: - May. 13, 2004 8:45 AM ET USA

    An "almost partial recognition"? In other, most honest and less gentle words, "No recognition, but we don't want to make it sound mean." If it's not full recognition and not partial recognition, the law of the excluded middle requires the third alternative to be true. A pity that the laws of logic are not properly 'ecumenical'; it would be SO much easier to regain unity with Anglicans, Episcopalians, Methodists, Raelians, etc., if the law of non-contradiction wasn't such a stumbling block!

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