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By Diogenes (articles ) | Oct 26, 2003

If you think anything goes in the Archdiocese of Los Angeles, Cardinal Roger Mahony will put you right.

In the Archdiocese of Los Angeles the faithful stand from the Our Father, the beginning of the Communion Rite, until all have received Communion. They may sit or kneel during the time of sacred silence after all have received.

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  • Posted by: Fatimabeliever - Oct. 29, 2003 7:21 PM ET USA

    I, too, am worried I sound too judgemental. But last night I was praying, if people in California got on their knees, God would take notice and send them some much needed rain. God does work miracles!

  • Posted by: John J Plick - Oct. 28, 2003 6:13 PM ET USA

    I was thinking the same thing myself, Fatimabeliever, but was afraid I might sound too "judgemental."

  • Posted by: Fatimabeliever - Oct. 28, 2003 4:02 PM ET USA

    I'm curious, "Did the brush fires in California start the same day Cardinal Mahoney came up with this disrespectful ritual regarding the Communion rite?" The point I'm trying to make is: That there is a possibility that these errors cause consequences. Is God trying to tell them and all of us something?

  • Posted by: - Oct. 28, 2003 12:09 AM ET USA

    F Standing throughout the Communion rite "The US bishops, in fact, voted explicitly that people may either kneel or sit after they receive Communion. Furthermore, in an official response to a dubium (question) of Cardinal George in July 2003, Cardinal Arinze, head of the Vatican's Congregation for Divine Worship, said that it was not the intention of the Holy See to prohibit the customary kneeling immediately after reception of Holy Communion.

  • Posted by: Fides - Oct. 27, 2003 10:16 PM ET USA

    "The phrase on occasion was specifically chosen by the Bishops in order to establish a uniform posture of kneeling during the Eucharistic Prayer. It is only on exceptional and extraordinary occasions, therefore, and never on a regular basis, that standing during the Eucharistic Prayer is permitted in the dioceses of the United States of America." Long live Pope Roger

  • Posted by: - Oct. 27, 2003 9:29 PM ET USA

    Extreme: I think we should follow the cardinal's example. Mahony only ever hears "can" and "can get away with," so we should do likewise and kneel following the Sanctus and the Agnus Dei. Then kneel when we go up to receive communion--on the tongue. All of these fall under "can" or "can get away with." When the cardinal starts hearing "must" and "should" from the pope, we "might" start hearing "must" and "should" from him. There is no obligation to be obedient to disobedience.

  • Posted by: Jimmy Why Why - Oct. 27, 2003 7:20 PM ET USA

    If I attend Mass in LA, I'll kneel after Communion and Rodger Mahony can try to drag me to my feet. J.E.S.

  • Posted by: John J Plick - Oct. 27, 2003 7:04 PM ET USA

    ...and the "unfaithful" will kneel...? JP

  • Posted by: extremeCatholic - Oct. 27, 2003 2:04 PM ET USA

    Does the Cardinal know the English language? For this sentence to make sense "must" (indicating obligation based on authority) or "should" (indicating obligation based on custom or good order) or "can" (indicating option) needs to be added.

  • Posted by: - Oct. 26, 2003 10:06 PM ET USA

    How gracious of the cardinal to allow us some prayer following communion, now that he and his peers have taken any vestige of prayer out of the rest of of the Mass.

  • Posted by: Pseudodionysius - Oct. 26, 2003 4:56 PM ET USA

    Will he stand or kneel at the Last Judgement?

  • Posted by: - Oct. 26, 2003 4:42 PM ET USA

    Is he trying to "kill off" arthritics and persons with back, foot, and leg, problems ??? Perhaps his punishment "hereafter" will be to remain STANDING for eons and eons. Let us continue to ask St. Jude to deal with Roger.

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