New Creation, skewed creators

By Diogenes (articles ) | Aug 24, 2003

A secular writer for the Asia Times discusses the gaying of the priesthood and suggests that its attraction for homosexuals is not "bells and smells" but the opportunity for refashioning human nature.

Many Catholic priests are not traditional Christians, but Utopian radicals whose goal is to eliminate conflict by purging humanity of its aggressive instincts (Freud to his credit did not believe this could be done). In other words, they are homosexuals out of principle. They share with the radical feminists the idea that man's aggressive instincts supposedly arise from sexual repression, whose source is the patriarchal family. The combination of an all-male fraternity with a Utopian agenda provides a magnet for male homosexuals.

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  • Posted by: - Aug. 26, 2003 11:02 PM ET USA

    Dear John J, No offense taken. I appreciate the sentiment. However, the words on the wire are a dry run, a practice forum for honing the arguments that will come. Post conversion, I have become embroiled in arguments/discussions and they are wonderful opportunities for controlling one's passions, and evangelizing the culture. But, I have no doubt that the price of that evangelization will rise steeply for all of us shortly. As Dostoevsky foresaw in his novel Demons.

  • Posted by: John J Plick - Aug. 26, 2003 6:19 PM ET USA

    Just want to make you more introspective about this issue of Spiritual combat Pseudo; For sure in an earlier age and a different culture both of us would have probably "disappeared" by now, never to be heard from again. But what will we do when the "time of trial" catches up with us? We scatter "words on the wires" and it has cost us far...God's peace, JP

  • Posted by: - Aug. 25, 2003 10:53 PM ET USA

    Dear John J, the early Greek Fathers caution against being too eager a martyr. That said, martyr means "witness" and there are many things that a faithful lay Catholic can do.

  • Posted by: - Aug. 25, 2003 10:51 PM ET USA

    Evangelize the culture is the practical battle cry from the Holy Father.

  • Posted by: - Aug. 25, 2003 10:49 PM ET USA

    Dear John J: I refer to Spiritual Combat by Lorenzo Scupoli: "This is indeed the hardest of all struggles; for while we strive against self, self is striving against us, and therefore is the victory here most glorious and precious in the sight of God." Perhaps the Editors of should allow us to file duelling op ed pieces at twenty paces. May the best rhetoritician win!

  • Posted by: John J Plick - Aug. 25, 2003 8:35 PM ET USA

    Dear Pseudo, You speak of Saints in Heaven but I stand upon the earth.And what of Telemark,that ancient Christian recluse who begged Our Lord for something to do.He received his answer"Go to Rome"When he got there he was inspired to go to the Colliseum where he immediately went to the front.lept over the wall INTO the arena and confronted two gladiators,begging them in the Name of Jesus to stop their bloodthirsty sport.The crowd hissed,a gesture from the Emperor,and Telemark was dead.Ready???

  • Posted by: - Aug. 25, 2003 1:59 PM ET USA

    Dear John J: The same ones who fought the counter-reformation: St Philip Neri, faithful Jesuits, Dominicans [and other orders' clergy] as well as consecrated nuns. All the lay as well as Clergy are called to engage in Spiritual Combat.

  • Posted by: John J Plick - Aug. 24, 2003 5:51 PM ET USA

    Dear Pseudo...; Now that we've beaten the problem to death (the Bishops), and will probably continue to do so just to vent our frustration, who will "Win the Crown: and give us a practical course of action?

  • Posted by: - Aug. 24, 2003 4:33 PM ET USA

    Of course the Bishops will fight this heresy, as they have fought all other Gnostic sects over the past 2,000 years. I am having a little difficulty naming more than about 10 bishops who would move to lance this boil in Catholicism. The rest are too busy dialoguing with Voice Of The Feckless, Call to Apostasy, Gay Marriage Advocates, and InterCommunion Wiccans to be bothered with their primary vocation.