By Diogenes (articles ) | Sep 15, 2006

Bishop Tod Brown of Orange, California, responds to a lay group whose members protested-- among other things-- being required to receive Communion standing:

The United States Conference of Catholic Bishops has determined that in the United States, Holy Communion is received standing and that the appropriate sign of respect is a bow of the head before the Sacrament. The Diocese of Orange is obliged to observe this norm.

Leaving aside the question of how thoroughly a diocese is "obliged" by a statement of the episcopal conference, let's look at what the USCCB actually said:

The norm for reception of Holy Communion in the dioceses of the United States is standing. Communicants should not be denied Holy Communion because they kneel. (emphasis added)

And when Catholics who were denied Communion because they insisted on kneeling petitioned the Holy See, the response was that the Vatican...

....considers any refusal of Holy Communion to a member of the faithful on the basis of his or her kneeling posture to be a grave violation of one of the most basic rights of the Christian faithful, namely that of being assisted by their pastors by means of the Sacraments.

And the Diocese of Orange is obliged to observe that norm, too.

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  • Posted by: - Sep. 20, 2006 3:48 PM ET USA

    Bishop Brown went on retreat and became inspired to have a video made which showed activities which go on within the diocese. One was a band(drums included) and congregation gyrating "holy roller" style. This was required viewing at last Sunday's masses. It was supposed to be a nice, feel good type of inspirational video. It did inspire me to resolve to go over the county line for Mass the next time this happens. This could be covered as part of a sermon on charity and at a saving money.

  • Posted by: - Sep. 17, 2006 10:00 AM ET USA

    This irrational stand that says we must strictly adhere to the guidelines of a conference, but ignores any and all real disobedience, liturgical abuse and sacrilege, makes me want to scream. No, this is the nonsense that causes me real grief and a sense of betrayal by shepherds who are in charge of TRUTH; representatives of the One who calls Himself, 'Truth'. I don't want to scream, I want to sob.

  • Posted by: Clorox - Sep. 15, 2006 8:55 PM ET USA

    "My ecclesiology"? "Eschatological"? Shezzam. He can't be lying with a vocabulary like that. The fools in the pews better listen up.

  • Posted by: - Sep. 15, 2006 4:01 PM ET USA

    Bishop Brown wants to buils a new cathedral. The O.C. has quite a few millionaires to help him do it. He needs to build bridges to the laity to get full cooperation. I think this issue was handled last summer when the kneeling issue came up regarding the Canon and consecration.It is up to the individual.

  • Posted by: - Sep. 15, 2006 2:16 PM ET USA

    These American bishops do seem to hate anything that reminds them of traditional Catholicism. That’s because they are unwilling to admit the damage done to the Church by their insistence on modernization and "reform." In this particular case, the sign of proper respect before the Blessed Sacrament is to kneel or genuflect (and nothing the feckless USCCB says can change that). Anything less is an outward sign of doubt or a lack of understanding of the Real Presence--and that’s Protestantism.

  • Posted by: - Sep. 15, 2006 1:46 PM ET USA

    My church in Ohio has altar rails. We kneel and rest our arms on them while the priest places Our Lord upon our tongue.

  • Posted by: - Sep. 15, 2006 12:18 PM ET USA

    If I lived in that diocese I would carry a copy of the complete USCCB statement and hand it to the Eucharistic Minster when refused me the Sacrament. If they complain about my "creating a disturbance", I can always claim to be gay.

  • Posted by: - Sep. 15, 2006 11:55 AM ET USA

    Our Bishops can be resolute on the little things like standing and sitting at Mass. When it comes to big issues like "Catholic" politicans espousing abortion, the use of the Latin Mass, teaching the hard truths like necessity of Sacrament of Penance, attendance at weekly Mass, teaching the truths of the Catholic Faith to the laity they obfuscate, delay and run away!

  • Posted by: - Sep. 15, 2006 11:43 AM ET USA

    A moral rathole.

  • Posted by: - Sep. 15, 2006 10:03 AM ET USA

    What a loser...

  • Posted by: - Sep. 15, 2006 8:04 AM ET USA

    [My decision on these requests is based upon my ecclesiology.] - Brown My ecclesiology?

  • Posted by: - Sep. 15, 2006 8:00 AM ET USA

    Brave Bishop Brown. If he reallly wanted to get those feisty sheep in line, he would have his Ministers refuse any who refuse to bow the head.