who writes your stuff?

By Diogenes (articles ) | Sep 19, 2005

Thus Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O’Connor, speaking September 12 in Lyons at an interfaith conference sponsored by the St. Egidio community:

We have now, as perhaps never before in my lifetime, the chance to build a spiritual humanism of peace in which all our religions can see the best of themselves reflected, yet which is also acceptable to those of no faith who see tolerance and respect for diversity as fundamental.

Does the Cardinal Archbishop of Washington write for the Cardinal Archbishop of Westminter, or vice versa?

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  • Posted by: - Sep. 20, 2005 1:48 PM ET USA

    Spiritual humanism? Shouldn't that be Christian Humanism? The "best of themselves" are called virtues, cardinal and theological, which are only their "best" when we are "perfected". If that occurs, we get assumed body and soul in to heaven. Or, we can wallow in our vices and in our intellectual and spiritual blindness write loopy twaddle such as the soulless epigram from Lyons. Tough choice, isn't it?

  • Posted by: Fr. William - Sep. 20, 2005 11:33 AM ET USA

    Diogenes, you know that a whole staff of folks writes for Cardinal McCarrick & Murphy-O'Connor: homosexuals, same-sex-ambivalents, transgendereds, pro-abortionists, & "all OUR religions", including: buddhists, Unitarians, atheists, Farrakahn Muslims.... not only to ensure "TOLERANCE" and respect for "DIVERSITY," but to guarantee it. Now don't we all FEEL loved? Saint Josemaria Escriva, pray for us. And, please, Holy Father, accept the retirement of these two cardinals, today, we beg you!

  • Posted by: Sir William - Sep. 19, 2005 10:59 PM ET USA

    My good Punch, I'm at a loss to find in the Cardinal's words anything regarding this idea of "asking us to witness". And what exactly is he asking us to witness? There is something vague about 'all our religions' seeing 'the best of themselves reflected', and those of no faith finding something or other acceptable. Where is the mention of a 'spiritual humanism of peace' in the Great Commission? I would have been thrilled had he 'proclaimed the good news', rather than this meaningless drivel.

  • Posted by: - Sep. 19, 2005 8:40 PM ET USA

    Jesus certainly packed a punch when he told his disciples: go ye therefore into all the world and make sure you have good PR so you don't offend anyone.

  • Posted by: - Sep. 19, 2005 8:25 PM ET USA

    Good Catholic ecumenism is this: love God with all your heart and love your neighbor as yourself. Part of loving your neighbor is to not allow him or her to be too comfortable in the error they embrace when that error leads them away from God. The Church's unwillingness to teach publicly and authoritatively on matters of Faith that are disputed by all manner of pagans, heretics, heathen, etc., prevents some of them from finding the Truth that will set them free. Don't be afraid to offend ...

  • Posted by: - Sep. 19, 2005 8:22 PM ET USA

    With the passage of each year I am becoming more convinced that ecumenism as it exists in the world is the work of Antichrist. It does not seek to bring all Christians together in the one Church (which has never ceased to be the Catholic Church). It seeks to create a quasi-masonic brotherhood of goodwill among humanity. The unity this will engender will be seized upon by the Enemy to help elevate the Antichrist. Thus ecumania is the prelude to the Great Apostasy of which St. Paul wrote.

  • Posted by: - Sep. 19, 2005 7:31 PM ET USA

    Sir William – our cardinal said nothing about diversity in the Church. He asked us to witness to "those who see tolerance and respect for diversity as fundamental". In other words, lets keep our grumbles between ourselves. We are bad at PR. Ask the man in the street what Catholics (Christians) believe and it's likely he'll say: "They are against X, Y and Z". Isn't it time we showed the world we are pro A, B and C? Believe and proclaim the good news of the resurrection and the rest will follow.

  • Posted by: - Sep. 19, 2005 2:27 PM ET USA

    I really don't understand this quote at all. Give me some less ambiguous, like, say, John 6:53.

  • Posted by: Sir William - Sep. 19, 2005 10:45 AM ET USA

    Awwww, come on, Uncle Di. "Can't we just all get along?" Sing with me now! A-one and a-two "Let us sing a New Church into being...rich in our di--ver--si--tyyyyyyyyyy!" Barf-bag, anyone?

  • Posted by: - Sep. 19, 2005 10:19 AM ET USA

    And here, beloved sons and venerable brethren, it is necessary once more to mention and censure the serious error into which some Catholics have unfortunately fallen. For they are of the opinion that men who live in errors, estranged from the true faith and from Catholic unity, can attain eternal life. This is in direct opposition to Catholic teaching… also well known is the Catholic dogma that no one can be saved outside the Catholic Church. (Pope Pius IX, Quanto Conficiamur Moerore, 1863)

  • Posted by: Vincit omnia amor - Sep. 19, 2005 10:06 AM ET USA

    I think it's safe to say, it ain't the Holy Spirit. BTW: what's "a spiritual humanism?" I think a phrase Diogenes has uttered sums this up, Card. Cormac is seeking to find the "least common denomination."