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Could you expand on that?

By Diogenes (articles ) | Jul 15, 2005

Bishop Thomas Gumbleton homilizes on the early Christian community.

Matthew's Gospel was written, put down in writing, maybe 50 years after Jesus had died and returned to heaven.

An odd way of putting it.

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  • Posted by: Pseudodionysius - Jul. 18, 2005 10:39 PM ET USA

    JJP, Gumbleton's homily is full of the worst kind of moral equivalence. I think Diogenes let him off very easy on this one.

  • Posted by: RC - Jul. 18, 2005 12:34 AM ET USA

    Matthew's Gospel was written -- no, wait, that sounds as if somebody wrote the thing in one piece; I can't say that -- I'm not a Fundamentalist! Let me use a vaguer expression -- it was put down in writing -- I really mean redacted, but you have to say it in simple words ...

  • Posted by: John J Plick - Jul. 16, 2005 4:27 PM ET USA

    Dear Diogenes, i think it is safe to say at this point that despite the warnings of some Saints and Mysticss that the Holy Spirit is not overtly displeased with our outspoken style regarding certain bishops and priests... but i wouldn't push it. What we are doing is potentially dangerous. I see nothing obviously wrong with this homily, except perhaps for the fact of the Bishop's pacifism, which he seems to support with the Gospel. Previous behaviour not withstanding, beware prejudice.

  • Posted by: Venerable Aussie - Jul. 16, 2005 8:49 AM ET USA

    His Lordship, Bishop Gumbleton, opens his homily with: "My first reaction...was to think about the words of Pope John Paul II" Hey, that's what I like to hear! A fearless successor to the Apostles who-NO MATTER WHAT THE SUBJECT MATTER-always holds dear all the teachings of the Church as expressed through the Supreme Pontiff. By the way, has anyone noticed the good Bishop actually open a commentary with: "My first reaction was to think about the words of Pope Benedict XVI..."? No? Sure?

  • Posted by: Andy K - Jul. 16, 2005 8:01 AM ET USA

    Dear Diogenes, I think the funniest part is the "...was written, [that is,] put into writing...." Uh, who speaks like that?

  • Posted by: - Jul. 15, 2005 12:07 PM ET USA

    Not even a sop to "us, the Easter people". Outside of the assertions of the Bultmannian "the Bible is myth crowd", the only physical evidence available (in the form of scraps of Greek manuscripts) points to a date of early 40's AD, and it is obviously a translation of what was originally an earlier, Aramaic manuscript.

  • Posted by: - Jul. 15, 2005 11:42 AM ET USA

    "died and returned to heaven"? Perhaps his creed reads as follows: ." . . . et crucifixus etiam pro nobis sub Pontio Pilato, passus et sepultus est, et ascendit in coelis, sedet ad dexteram patris . . . ." Something missing?

  • Posted by: Fr. William - Jul. 15, 2005 11:35 AM ET USA

    Diogenes, did you also see, at the end of his personal digression, his odd way of putting the Father and Son in all lowercase, but not the Holy Spirit: "In the name of the father and of the son and of the Holy Spirit. Amen." (When does he get to retire? Could the Holy Father help out Bishop Gumbleton and invoke Canon 401-2?) Saint Bonaventure, pray for us.

  • Posted by: - Jul. 15, 2005 11:29 AM ET USA

    This man turned 75 in January. What is the Vatican waiting for?

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