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By Diogenes (articles ) | Nov 30, 2006

Joe Sobran gets it in one:

Liberals may not believe in God, but they make it clear that if they did, he would be a much nicer sort of Deity than the one the believers believe in. In fact, he would be more comfortable with the people who don't believe in him than with the ones who worship him. It's the atheists who are made in his image, so to speak. And needless to say, he would probably reject the ontological argument for his own existence.

For sentimentalists of the Left, non-existence is one of the divine attributes. It's not that the existence of a Supremely Perfect Being is impossible in itself, but it would be in bad taste.

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  • Posted by: - Dec. 06, 2006 5:30 PM ET USA

    Liberals have decided to create God in their own image and likeness.

  • Posted by: Coco - Dec. 04, 2006 4:01 PM ET USA

    Thank you, esalkin. I was thinking the same. Funny, Fox and hUMPTY dUMPTY have not replied...

  • Posted by: - Dec. 01, 2006 11:43 AM ET USA

    hUMPTY dUMPTY & Fox, If you define your version of "liberal" to be some form of socialism that is fine. (not that I agree). If you mean support for things like abortion; gay marriage; wymon priests and/or you refute other defined Truths that would contradict the Faith and place you outside of it. (no matter how may times you attend Mass)

  • Posted by: Publicus - Dec. 01, 2006 11:20 AM ET USA

    Fox and Humpty D: There are indeed conservative atheists but, in my experience, they generally exhibit a large degree of religious tolerance. Perhaps because, as conservatives, they adhere to the authentic interpretation of the 1st amendment, Di's spotlight hits the right crowd here.

  • Posted by: Pseudodionysius - Dec. 01, 2006 9:47 AM ET USA

    I find its always useful to review Cardinal Newman's wonderful homily on liberalism as the spirit of the age and then read the book review "Newman's Liberal Problem" in First Things magazine from 2003.

  • Posted by: hUMPTY dUMPTY - Dec. 01, 2006 8:54 AM ET USA

    Fox: You are not alone, I do all those things also, and I wore my Catholic for Kerry button in 2004. Keep the faith, as we trudge the road to happy destiny together. Mike K-D

  • Posted by: Fox - Dec. 01, 2006 1:05 AM ET USA

    I resent this lumping of all liberals as secular atheists&all conservatives as truly religious. I am a liberal who never misses Sunday Mass, 3rd order OP, choir member, sometime lector&eucharistic minister, peace & justice commission, lead Bible study groups in Lent. Most of my friends are similar. You're a little right: the God we know is not the black&white anthropomorphic God you seem to see. + we see a lot of truly non-religious conservatives talking the talk but not walking the walk. Hello?

  • Posted by: Clorox - Nov. 30, 2006 7:16 PM ET USA

    Joe Sobran is like Babe Ruth or Hank Aaron (I'm a Milwaukee Braves fan). Doesn't always get a home run, but, man, when he's on, he's on.

  • Posted by: - Nov. 30, 2006 11:02 AM ET USA

    "For sentimentalists of the Left, non-existence is one of the divine attributes. It's not that the existence of a Supremely Perfect Being is impossible in itself, but it would be in bad taste." Oh, well done, Diogenes!

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