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Old friend Dom Bettinelli is among the subjects of today's Boston Globe story about conservative Catholics in the Boston area.
You already know the party line. The "conservatives" are supposed to be the bad guys: the people who use uncharitable language. But they are not the people who accuse their adversaries of "frothing at the mouth."
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Posted by: Meg Q -
Dec. 09, 2005 9:51 PM ET USA
'James E. Post, president of Voice of the Faithful, said he was shocked when the conservative activists 'began whacking us as dissenters, but I came to understand that they have a very large political agenda" that is helpful to antireform church officials.' Shocked! I am shocked! -- Totally. I mean, boo hoo, man. It's all about "politics", isn't it. (To some people, anyway.)
Posted by: Fiducia -
Dec. 09, 2005 1:20 PM ET USA
$500 a plate dinner.......that alone turns my stomach. Is that how Catholic institutions raise money for the poor ? I'll keep checking my mailbox for my invitation to the St. Vincent de Paul masquerade ball......
Posted by: frjimc -
Dec. 09, 2005 12:25 PM ET USA
" 'We are using the principle of material cooperation,' Hehir said." What he doesn't say and the Globe doesn't add is that it's defined as "material cooperation with evil (or sin). Check out the Catholic Encyclopedia's essay on "Accomplice" (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01100a.htm). Hehir's argument is that the Church MUST place adoptees, and it is such a necessity that cooperating with a sinful structure is acceptable. But others do placements, and we can't do sinful behaviors ourselves.
Posted by: -
Dec. 09, 2005 11:30 AM ET USA
The establishment sounds worried....how apropos that this is taking place in Boston.
Posted by: Ross Dee -
Dec. 09, 2005 11:17 AM ET USA
As I understand it ,In the Boston Globe article,Father Hehir said that when Catholic Charities work with a secular organization, the secular ideas prevail, even though it is against the Catholic Church. Father Hehir claims that "it is guided by Catholic teaching" that reflects centuries of cooperation".What, co-op with the devil?. If you accept the state's money ,you can tell them that you will use the money within the Church's teaching guidlines. If you don't, your not Catholic.
Posted by: frjimc -
Dec. 09, 2005 11:06 AM ET USA
"gaiety" indeed . . . Somebody would do well to turn over a few rocks and see what slithers out, especially in regard to "Catholic" Charities' dealing with homosexually-oriented folks and their parents. A priest of the archdiocese of Boston has had a special relationship with that organization for some time -- under Doolin and now under Hehir -- and has a history of referring clients to PFLAG. His own proclivities? As a pastor, shall we say that his choice of business managers is suspect . .
Posted by: Mattiacum -
Dec. 09, 2005 9:36 AM ET USA
Isn't something missing in the Globe's piece? Or would it ruin the tone of their tale to mention the fact that the Vatican is among that "group of Catholic conservatives" that "has changed the atmosphere surrounding tonight's Catholic Charities annual Christmas fund-raising dinner from gaiety to guardedness?"