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Force liberal Catholics to show Vatican II texts to justify stands, columnist suggests

September 24, 2010

Borrowing a famous line from the movie Jerry Maguire, David Mills writes that when liberal Catholics invoke the "spirit of Vatican II," conservatives should reply with a simple, insistent demand: "Show me the text."


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  • Posted by: Defender - Sep. 26, 2010 8:58 PM ET USA

    Fr. Massa's statement ranks right up there with Cardinal Mahoney's assertion a few years ago that Latin was only a recent development in the Church---er, 1500 years or so of history is recent?

  • Posted by: Defender - Sep. 26, 2010 4:39 PM ET USA

    No one wears a Roman Collar anymore, including Fr. Massa. Though no one wore one during Christ's time, it seems that no one wants to wear them anymore today, but to say that, "A great majority of Catholics (once) thought of the church as outside of time altogether—that what they did on Sunday is what Jesus did at the Last Supper, and early Christians did in the catacombs" was wrong until VII really explained things has got to be one of the most absurd attributes of VII ever heard?

  • Posted by: Salome - Sep. 26, 2010 4:24 PM ET USA

    Actual evidence or authority? Are you joking? If you respond to them quoting actual authoritative texts, you'll be told, 'That's just your opinion.'

  • Posted by: Steve214 - Sep. 25, 2010 6:31 PM ET USA

    Too little; too late. If that was the the answer, it would have worked 40 years ago.

  • Posted by: Obregon - Sep. 24, 2010 10:02 PM ET USA

    For more than forty years the strategy, "show me the text," has never worked because dissenters counter with, "well, you just don't understand the "spirit of Vatican II." Anything liberal dissenters can't explain, is, of course, the result of the "spirit of Vatican II." Worse than that, one is then accused of being a "fundamentalist" since one is asking for a "literal" interpretation of Vatican II.