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By Diogenes (articles ) | Nov 28, 2006

Yep, hustler-turned-priest Raymond Gravel won a seat in the Canadian federal parliament in yesterday's by-election. His bishop, Gilles Lussier, acceded to his candidacy, ostensibly (we have only Gravel's word for it) having been promised that Gravel would pass on the hot-button issues -- as if neutrality were not in itself a scandal:

Gravel's liberal positions favouring same-sex marriage and opposing the recriminalization of abortion run against church doctrine. He got permission to go into politics from his bishop but has pledged to abstain on some moral issues.

Apparently Fr. Gravel's promise was subject to review:

Still, he plans to vote against reopening the debate on the definition of marriage.

So, Bishop Lussier, are we to understand that, after Gravel breaks his promise to you, you will keep faith with us by tendering your resignation?

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  • Posted by: Eleazar - Nov. 30, 2006 9:51 AM ET USA

    Does anyone remember Fr Robert Drinan? He was a Jesuit who served in Congress from 1970 until 1980 when JPII made him an offer he couldn’t refuse…essentially quit Congress or be defrocked. Sounds like Fr Gravel was cut from the same bold of cloth as Drinan. Given that history, and relatively recent at that, how could this happen again? BXVI needs to send a similar message to Gravel (and Bp. Lussier as well.)

  • Posted by: www.inquisition.ca - Nov. 29, 2006 9:47 PM ET USA

    I hereby submit my article for the "Uncle Di Impersonation Contest": "I Throw The First Stone At Father Gravel" http://www.inquisition.ca/en/polit/artic/premiere_pierre.htm Of course, I'm not at Uncle Di's level yet, but practice, practice, practice! Maybe someday!

  • Posted by: Deacon Bart - Nov. 29, 2006 12:15 PM ET USA

    Canon law has specific rules for removing clergy.They cannot just be fired-the process can take years to decades.Often the best the Pope can do is appoint a coadjutor bishop as JPII did & wait for the age 75 Canon to kick in .If the Pope had the power the anti-Catholic would assign to him his job might be easier but a bishop is virtually on his own within his diocese.It is why the selection of a bishop is so critical. Mother Mary intercede for our bishops that they may be faithful to your Son.

  • Posted by: www.inquisition.ca - Nov. 28, 2006 11:03 PM ET USA

    Remember everybody, Father Raymond Gravel is just a pawn. His Bishop is guilty, yes, but who is leaving his Bishop in post? Bill Clinton? No, he's not in charge of the Church... Guess again... The Pope? Right. Why doesn't the Pope act like a Pope and clean this up? I wish I knew...

  • Posted by: Gaude - Nov. 28, 2006 10:41 PM ET USA

    I believe it was Dante, who in the Divine Comedy said: "The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who in time of great moral crisis maintain their neutrality."

  • Posted by: Pseudodionysius - Nov. 28, 2006 10:36 PM ET USA

    There are more panty-waist bishops just waiting in the wings. Canada. The Land that Time Forgot.

  • Posted by: - Nov. 28, 2006 6:28 PM ET USA

    This is another embarassment for the ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH in Canada! What has this Bishop been thinking? The good news is that in Ontario we will soon have new Archbishops in both Toronto and Ottawa and perhaps Kingston. Hopefully they will be hand picked by Benedict XVI, even if he has to reach down to the priesthood or even one that might be in the Curia?? Quebec though is a lost cause. Is it any wonder that the churches are empty when you have such a lack of leadership!

  • Posted by: - Nov. 28, 2006 5:24 PM ET USA

    How can Raymand Gravel even consider himself a Catholic? Last time I looked, the Church, the Body of Christ, is a community of believers. But Gravel is not among them, as he openly admits to his proclamation of beliefs against Church teaching. And, I wonder about this ordinary. He seems to be just an ordinary jerk, who needs some kind of shock treatment from his diocese...you know, the kind of shock that comes when the funds dry up. Jashu

  • Posted by: Pseudodionysius - Nov. 28, 2006 5:19 PM ET USA

    The rebukes from the CCCB are deafening.

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