a Dallas expert speaks again
By Diogenes (articles ) | October 14, 2005 8:56 AM
At their June 2002 meeting in Dallas, the US bishops heard from a psychologist named Mary Gail Frawley-O'Dea.
Or at least one of them is still hearing from her. In a letter sent to Archbishop Sean O'Malley of Boston-- with copies helpfully sent to all the pastors in the archdiocese-- the bishops' chosen expert says:
Almost surely, if Jesus returned today to St. Peter's Square (or Holy Cross Cathedral), he would do so as a tattooed, multiply pierced individual wearing jeans and an old camouflage jacket. He (or she) would dine with gays and lesbians, bless the children born in test tubes, and gather unto him the sea of sexual abuse victims. He would, as he did, spend his time lifting the marginalized and powerless of today's world while taking down the arrogant who teach with forked tongues. He (or she) would remind the modern day Pharisees - you and too, too many of your episcopal brethren - that people are more important than rules or accoutrements of power. As before, almost surely, the Swiss Guards would call the Romans to remove the disruptive truth teller from the temple. Sound familiar?
So now we have a glimpse into the thinking of the USCCB's chosen expert. And we're left to wonder how, with thousands of shrinks to choose from, the bishops' conference selected this one as an expert witness.
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Posted by: Fr. William -
Oct. 17, 2005 10:22 PM ET USA
Frawley-O'Dea's statement is indefensible. She's attacking the Church & the Holy Father. The fact that the bishops, including Abp. O'Malley, have promoted this heretic & her views is unacceptable. Please, please, please, Pope Benedict XVI, correct these shepherds who are not behaving as shepherds... or remove them, for the reasons could not be more serious (Canon 401-2), & the souls of people are being put at risk by heterodox bishops & their minions. St. Ignatius of Antioch, pray for us.
Posted by: Sir William -
Oct. 17, 2005 1:44 PM ET USA
the bishops' chosen *expert* says: To quote my high school math teacher: "An EX is a 'has-been' and a 'spurt' is merely a 'drip under pressure' " That was one of the the best and truest lessons I have ever learned.
Posted by: -
Oct. 17, 2005 10:52 AM ET USA
This woman's idea of a cure for alcoholism would be to tell alcoholics that God made them thay way and have another drink. Those multiply pierced people she romanticizes are in tremendous pain and she thinks that helping them means keeping them in pain. There must be a special place in hell for health care professionals who so egregiously betray thet trust of the people they are supposed to be helping.
Posted by: Art Kelly -
Oct. 16, 2005 10:42 AM ET USA
It is imperative that we find out how this woman was selected. What bishop or staff member was responsible. That person must be held fully accountable for this abomination.
Posted by: normnuke -
Oct. 15, 2005 4:48 PM ET USA
Evidently it would come as news to this laughable mental health professional that Jesus already came as a "multiply pierced individual". Five times, to be exact. And He was a man, not an "individual".
Posted by: Mike128 -
Oct. 15, 2005 10:47 AM ET USA
The USCCB should be abolished immediately by a DEMAND of all Catholics who want to preserve our authentic Faith. This body provides an excuse for radical thinking and conduct, releasing each bishop from individual responsibility for their actions and allowing this incompetent body to promulgate downright stupid thinking and announcements, and actions such as selecting this psychologist.Every day seems to scream out to the world how destructive this USCCB is and how quiet individual bishops are.
Posted by: Cupertino -
Oct. 14, 2005 10:33 PM ET USA
It is perfectly appropriate to write to AM O'Malley and tell him this is claptrap, that it insults even moderately informed Catholics with its banality. No loyalty issue is involved by a sharp protest (copy to your Pastor). The same holds for any other Bishop receiving this. They may actually be firmed up to know people see through and reject such garbage.
Posted by: benedictusoblatus -
Oct. 14, 2005 5:20 PM ET USA
I am sure Jesus would have dined with queers and freaks. And when they were done, the queers would do penance and the freaks would have the humility and charitable good sense to stop walking around spooking their neighbors. He forgave the woman caught in sin ... and then told her "go and sin no more." And that is how it should be for all of us. But first we need to get through to the queers and freaks and heretics that they have a problem. Sorrow for sin precedes hugs and doughnuts.
Posted by: Catholicity -
Oct. 14, 2005 4:28 PM ET USA
Miss FRAWLEY-O'Dea, perchance have you considered that Jesus didn't come to earth for the purpose of "lifting the marginalized and powerless"? Those are nice modernist concepts but far from the truth, which seems to be a victim here. Jesus came to set men free from sin and to repair the breach in fellowship caused by our first parents.
Posted by: -
Oct. 14, 2005 4:07 PM ET USA
Well, should we be surprised at the USCCB choice? Remember who they brought along to Rome as their 'expert' in early 2002 for that 'special session' prior to promulgating the Dallas Norms? One, Fr. Stephen Rosetti. Yes, that Fr. Rosetti - he of St. Luke's Institute infamy. So, of what use is the USCCB, really? Salt. Savor. Thrown out.
Posted by: -
Oct. 14, 2005 3:01 PM ET USA
This tolerance brigade of Therapists and psycho-ologists are advising our bishops? The story underneath these people is their intolerance, their desire for mind-control and the potential depths of their cruelty. The defenders of orthodoxy are the enemies? We must be silenced at seminaries, opposed through hate-speech measures, and then what do they do when they have power? What gay priests have done to young boys and young men? Then try to cover it up. Millstones for Pharisees who harm the young
Posted by: -
Oct. 14, 2005 12:48 PM ET USA
And don't call me "Shirley." Same originality. "Almost Shirley" -- I think that refers to a marginalized, powerless individual caught between the "he/or she."
Posted by: -
Oct. 14, 2005 12:41 PM ET USA
A boring recycling of one of the more ridiculous prophesies of WWJD, by a mediocre intelligence. It would not merit notice but for the prevalence of mediocre minds in the priesthood, whose delusions find justification in this sort of nonsense.
Posted by: Vincit omnia amor -
Oct. 14, 2005 12:22 PM ET USA
oy vey! with "experts" like these no wonder we're in such a funk!
Posted by: Eusebuis1 -
Oct. 14, 2005 11:55 AM ET USA
The sad thing is that this type of information will never be provided to our Holy Father. It well be filtered by his staff and certainly not appropriate for his friends to mention when they see him. The Pope is an isolated person. All we can to is pray.
Posted by: Eleazar -
Oct. 14, 2005 11:31 AM ET USA
Actually, I prefer Revelation's description of Christ's return, rather than Ms. O'Dea's.
Posted by: Eleazar -
Oct. 14, 2005 11:30 AM ET USA
Although I enjoyed reading Uncle Di’s comments and the posts so far; without realizing it, Ms O’Dea may have hit on one of the key problems with the USCCB and the entire American catholic church; to wit, humanism. Although her hyperbole is extreme and she clearly overstepped by copying Abp. O’Malley’s pastors, I think her overly humanistic view of Christ and her comment, “people are more important…” are most telling. Worst of all, not a few of our prelates probably agree.
Posted by: Fiducia -
Oct. 14, 2005 11:28 AM ET USA
The modern Pharisees are those who publicly identify themselves as "Catholics" and rail against Church teachings. I don't recall Jesus' wardrobe so prominently mentioned in the Gospels. I must have been distracted by all that stuff about sin and redemption.
Posted by: Sir William -
Oct. 14, 2005 11:03 AM ET USA
"And we're left to wonder how, with thousands of shrinks to choose from, the bishops' conference selected this one as an expert witness." Preferential option?
Posted by: Ross Dee -
Oct. 14, 2005 10:44 AM ET USA
This must be a joke. The so called expert "witch" does not even know that Jesus was in factual history a male. She is in denial and so are the Bishops for even giving a platform to such a misguided individual. No wonders there is so much sexual abuse and filth in our Holy Church. We have some mindless Bishops running things and they do not seem to get any smarter. By their lack of action they are promoting "sin". We all know what Jesus said about "sin" so I would say we better pray.
Posted by: Canismater -
Oct. 14, 2005 10:32 AM ET USA
The smoke of Satan has entered the offices of the USCCB... ...and what they're smoking is probably illegal. If you personally attack a bishop are you sinning? If you voice an opinion against the USCCB are you attacking the bishops? Some would argue yes to both. If you personally attack the Bishops when you are part of the USCCB, what are you doing then? A house divided cannot stand…
Posted by: Pseudodionysius -
Oct. 14, 2005 10:18 AM ET USA
The number of the beast is her hourly fee rate.
Posted by: Convert1994 -
Oct. 14, 2005 9:34 AM ET USA
WOW!!! This woman makes We Aren't Church and Voice of the Unfaithful sound like the SSPX!