stroppy cardinal backs gay teachers
By Diogenes (articles ) | Mar 28, 2005
The Scottish Catholic Church capitulates to gays.
Homosexuals will not be banned from teaching in faith schools, says Cardinal Keith O'Brien head of the Roman Catholic Church in Scotland. He said sexual orientation was not, in itself, of any relevance to the Church.
His comments, made yesterday to a Sunday newspaper, flatly contradict those of Bishop Joseph Devine, the president of the Catholic Education Service, who sparked a furore last week when he said being a homosexual teacher "would not at all be compatible" with Church teachings. …
The intervention of Cardinal O’Brien is the sternest rebuke to Bishop Devine, whose remarks were regarded not just as intolerant but as a breach of equality and employment laws. Cardinal O'Brien said: "If there happens to be a gay teacher and he does happen to be living with a partner, that’s their personal, private life. I don’t see it as a problem."
Eminence, if "there happens to be" a gay archbishop -- is that his personal, private life as well? Could you please spell out what other mortal sins you don’t see as a problem for Catholic educators to embrace?
He added there would be no investigation into whether a prospective or practising teacher was gay or lesbian, saying there was no "witch hunt with regard to morality or lifestyle". Church insiders said the cardinal has stepped in to exert his authority and defuse what may be perceived as a row among the hierarchy over issues of faith and morals.
One said: "Joe [Devine] is of sufficient seniority to believe he can effectively say what he likes. His Eminence is reminding him of who is in charge."
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Posted by: benedictusoblatus -
Mar. 31, 2005 12:20 AM ET USA
I don't want to be accused of being heretical or anything ... but the Faith is more important than schools, hospitals or any other visible institution. If governments create laws that effectively make impossible the continuance of Catholic institutions that are faithful to their principles, those institutions must needs be closed! Review, if you please, the history of the Church in the years before Constantine. Not all persecution was bloody. Much was as it is today: constant noxious pressure.
Posted by: -
Mar. 28, 2005 7:46 PM ET USA
Wasn't this the same Archbishop who had to sign a declaration of fidelity to the church's teaching on homosexuality before he was elevated to the rank of Cardinal?!
Posted by: -
Mar. 28, 2005 7:23 PM ET USA
The Cardinal is not only ignorant of morals he is ignorant of history. The reason for the witch hunt was because people actually believed that witches existed, that they actually harmed their crops and their livestock, and because most "witches" never denied it. Belief in the gay and lesbian lifestyle is not necessary today because it is known via broadcast everywhere in the most pornographically lew and vicious manner possible
Posted by: Gil125 -
Mar. 28, 2005 7:22 PM ET USA
One wonders what His Eminence expects the jolly, cheerful, happy poofter teacher to teach about Sec. 2357 of the Catechism.
Posted by: -
Mar. 28, 2005 7:15 PM ET USA
Seems to me they both report to the Pope. Ordinarily, I would expect the Cardinal Archbishop to know more and to be more Catholic. But, clearly in this case the Cardinal needs to be told by both Joe Devine and by the Vatican. Let's see, the Vatican was all over Bush and the US over Terri Schiavo. Can the Vatican run its own house? If it recruits its teachers and role models from the Culture of Death, all it will have left are some old books,pretty uniforms,and some outstanding residences.
Posted by: Ignacio177 -
Mar. 28, 2005 7:14 PM ET USA
The problem of Gay (not those temped to homosexual vicious acts but those who consent to the temptation and applaud other´s sin) is the crucial problem of the church today. If one fudges on life issues all others are fair game. These are dissenters. O'Brian has failed the nut test. He doesn't have em in one of two senses. Either he can't take the heat or has crossed over. Can we get Joe Devine's e-mail to send him a note of support. [note: via this address: firstname.lastname@example.org]
Posted by: -
Mar. 28, 2005 5:26 PM ET USA
Cardinal O'Brien does not understand a gay–lesbian–lifestyle any obstcle to teaching in a Catholic school. Is the Cardinal ignorant also of the effect of example (Verba aedificant, exempla trahunt). Does the Cardinal not understand what hypocrisy is? What does the Cardinal think about his sexually abusive priests? Isn't that a private matter, too? After all, what is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. Jashu
Posted by: Pseudodionysius -
Mar. 28, 2005 4:25 PM ET USA
Wasn't this the same "wee O'Brien" who had to have a little ecclesial armtwisting to confirm his assent? Someone uttered the epithet "in yo' face" at the time; it seems to me that Cardinal O'Brien is doing an "in yo'face" and I think someone should take him up on it, by sacking him. Although not intended as a sartorial comment, the Bugs Bunny epithet "what a maroon" applies in spades here.