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another both/and church

By Diogenes (articles ) | March 15, 2005 12:17 PM

Thanks to Bill Cork for calling attention to a report of Lutheran (ELCA) recommendations that include this almost unsurpassably fine specimen of trendy ecclesiastical double-think:

  • Continue under current standards that expect unmarried ministers to abstain from sexual relations, defining marriage as being between a man and a woman; but, respecting the consciences of those who find these standards in conflict with the mission of the church, the ELCA may choose to refrain from disciplining gay and lesbian ministers in committed relationships and from disciplining those who call or approve partnered gay or lesbian people for ministry.
  • "... in conflict with the mission of the church." Right.

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    • Posted by: Novus744 - Mar. 15, 2005 8:47 PM ET USA

      Hey A T - Careful, you might give them more ideas.

    • Posted by: Gil125 - Mar. 15, 2005 5:51 PM ET USA

      Does this differ a lot in spirit from a typical document from the USCCB?

    • Posted by: normnuke - Mar. 15, 2005 2:37 PM ET USA

      Not far from my home is a Lutheran parish of ELCA calling, and even closer is one of more usual type. The ELCA parish has closed down and the other one is thriving. I think there is good news in that.

    • Posted by: Abraham Tolemahcs - Mar. 15, 2005 12:57 PM ET USA

      Imagine this: Continue under current standards that expect Marines to engage the enemy when fired upon & be obedient to lawful orders from their superiors; but, respecting the consciences of those who find these standards in conflict with their own consciences, the Marines Corps may choose to refrain from disciplining those displaying acts of cowardice or willful disobedience in combat & from disciplining those who approve of or support those who display such cowardice & disobedience.

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