...except the sign of Jonah
By Diogenes (articles ) | July 28, 2004 4:32 PM
Enlightened Catholic opinion in Seattle:
While Sheehan, a 75-year-old mother of seven, considers herself a loyal, lifelong Catholic, none of her eight grandchildren has been baptized. "The old me would have agonized over that," she said. "But I see that they are still beautiful, spiritual people and the church doesn't speak to their values."
The old me would have surmised that there must be a misunderstanding somewhere.
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Aug. 03, 2004 3:51 PM ET USA
I have to agree that "the church doesn't speak to their values." The Church is impotent when it comes to speaking of anyone's values. Instead, the church has finally caught up with the 70's "I'm okay, you're okay" psycho-babble in which there is neither right nor wrong. Those bishops willing to witness by speaking to gospel values are quickly silenced by voices such as Archbishop Billy Laveda. Nobody can "speak" to values that are without morality.
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Aug. 03, 2004 9:14 AM ET USA
One cannot condemn a grandmother for a situation that has been caused by so many forces including the Church whereby their grandchildren are not being baptized. Even if a grandparent tries her hardest it does not mean that their grandchildren will be baptized. Is she to ignore and condemn the innocent children in the situation? That would not be Jesus's way. He would accept them as wonderful beautiful human beings and help them to make the choice when they are able to on their own. PLEASE!
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Jul. 30, 2004 2:54 PM ET USA
Does it not occur to you that the 75-year-old grandmother of seven and her seven children have stopped listening to their priests? Are priests responsible for the irresponsibility of the laity?
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Jul. 28, 2004 9:35 PM ET USA
This just proves the point doesn't it?After reading this article it is plain to see that She has lost so much of her belief in Jesus Christ and his Church that she doesn"t even think it nesesary to be baptised! and who can take credit for that ? All those "enlightened " babyboomer liberal priests who thought that they were doing such a great job. Don't fast! don't get on your knees ! just feel good and we"ll get on your level and satiisfy your "feelings" If only the church had been more liberal!
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Jul. 28, 2004 5:08 PM ET USA
It's likely that the "old" her was trained pre-Vatican II and that the "new" her was intercepted in middle-age by a closet homosexual-pedophile priest who enlightened her on the Spirit of Vatican II. I've run into these grandmotherly sorts. They go to church on Sunday and give money regularly. The don't like a lot of the changes but the priest said it was OK and they were taught to listen to the priest. Who would have thought to have trained them to interrogate the modern roman-collared wolves?
