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the dangers of disruption

By Diogenes (articles ) | May 14, 2004

If you glance at the program of the Religious Education 2004 Congress over which Los Angeles Cardinal Roger Mahony presided, you'll find a virtual strip mall of boutique Eucharistic offerings. There's a Hawaiian-theme liturgy and a Hispanic-theme liturgy and a Nigerian-theme liturgy and a Vietnamese-theme liturgy and a Young Adult-theme liturgy and a Contemplative-theme liturgy -- every variant, apparently, except a Calvary theme. Of course this is the diocese that introduced to its cathedral a 50-foot dancing dragon "to ward off evil spirits and usher in good fortune in the Chinese New Year."

So how does Cardinal Mahony respond to the draft of a revised translation of the Roman Missal?

"The last thing our people need is to now disrupt the liturgy, which has been a source of nourishment and strength during this difficult journey."

Words fail me.

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[photo shows worshipers nourished and strengthened by the Closing Liturgy of the 1999 RE Congress]

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  • Posted by: - May. 18, 2004 10:25 AM ET USA

    Dropping out of the Mystical Body of Christ is not an option. That way lies death. Nor is it a necessary consequence of pursuing an "extra-canonical" solution to the inability to find spiritual sustenance in a spiritual desert like Los Angeles. The minions of Catholic lemmings who dutifully accept whatever new folly comes from the modernists "deserve" the situation they find themselves in. Lukewarmness ... vomiting ... Apocalypse. We pray for God's mercy to all of us who are undeserving.

  • Posted by: - May. 17, 2004 5:37 PM ET USA

    Minidoc: A final comment. I repeat, the people, millions of them, have taken the ultimate "extra-canonical" action by dropping out of the Mystical Body of Christ. It's had no remedial impact on the institutional Church, in Rome, L.A. or elsewhere. That isn't the fault of the people. The people -- all of us -- don't "deserve" the leadership we have. Jesus said, "I am the Way, the Truth and the Life." He promised Eternal Reward. Not that we'd get what we "deserve" in this world. (499 characters).

  • Posted by: - May. 16, 2004 5:33 AM ET USA

    PJRS: A sound bite is just that, only a bite of the entire meal. I don't think St. Thomas Aquinas could explain what the term "people get the leaders they deserve" means in 500 characters or less ... and I'm sure not smart enough to! In short, Catholics who devote themselves to seeking God and the Truth will not accept the leadership of a Mahony. They will move or find an extra-canonical solution to the problem of living the authentic Catholic life. If they do nothing, they deserve him.

  • Posted by: - May. 15, 2004 11:45 AM ET USA

    Another point, Minidoc. The people who you say get the leadership they "deserve" have been protesting and taking action for years -- to no avail. Millions have left the Church. Millions more stay away and withhold financial support. But these facts are ignored. Instead our leaders and their Court jesters smile irenically as they lie on cue: "All is well. All is well. How delightful is this brave new pink and multicultural world of ours!"

  • Posted by: - May. 15, 2004 11:05 AM ET USA

    I think what the Cardinal is doing in his diatribe is to threaten non-participation if the proposed new translation of the Roman Missal isn't to his liking. It is ironic to me that he talks about disrupting the liturgy when the Archdiocese insisted upon the faithful standing throughout the Communion rite and to prevent kneeling after the reception of Communion. This despite what the Congregation for Divine Worship said about such rules. Didn't anyway say non-team player?

  • Posted by: - May. 15, 2004 10:01 AM ET USA

    Minidoc: re your 3:28 post. If your wonderings came true, Mahony might be gone. But that doesn't validate your last sentence. It's a sound bite, a political concept, not a philosophical or theological one. We live in the world of original sin. This can't be changed, even by massive social action. We don't "deserve" bad leadership simply because we haven't (yet) revolted against it. And we don't "deserve" the enemy being welcomed into our citadels while apostasy reigns in our command posts.

  • Posted by: Gil125 - May. 14, 2004 7:49 PM ET USA

    Minidoc, I doubt that even 500,000 Catholics marching and withholding contributions would persuade Mahony. In any event, the bishop is supposed to lead and the people to follow, not the other way around. And of COURSE...the Pope has the power to do something...but...........

  • Posted by: - May. 14, 2004 3:28 PM ET USA

    PJRS: You are, of course, entirely correct in what you have said regarding my posting. But I have to wonder ... what would the Pope do if 500,000 LA Catholics protested publicly against the antics of their cardinal? What would happen if the cardinal's "liturgies" were performed before an empty auditorium? What would happen if tens of thousands of LA Catholics refused to give even a dollar to the cardinal or those priests who speak like him? In the end, people get the leadership they deserve.

  • Posted by: - May. 14, 2004 12:37 PM ET USA

    I sympathize with much of what Minidoc says. And all of what he feels. But he's wrong in asserting that "the people" allow Mahoney the slack he needs to operate in the fashion he does. It's a matter of jurisdiction. The people don't have it. The Pope does. And the Pope won't -- or can't -- exercise it. Therefore Mahoney and the people sink deeper and deeper into the abyss.

  • Posted by: - May. 14, 2004 12:27 PM ET USA

    Some years ago - in a moment of weakness - I attended Midnight Mass at St. John's Cathedral in Milwaukee. This was prior to its 'renovation' and Weakland's 'coming out'. The homily consisted of the Abp. producing mementos of his years of service. I just recall one - a quilt someone had made for him. Though not quite 'seamless' it was a very Bernardin-esque moment. Or should I say Mahony-esque? I felt so nourished and strengthened...

  • Posted by: - May. 14, 2004 12:26 PM ET USA

    I have GOT to get to one of these L.A. Religious Ed conferences. I really have to see this stuff for myself. Reading about it in The Wanderer just isn't enough. Is it a BYOQ (bring your quaaludes) party, or are refreshments supplied?

  • Posted by: - May. 14, 2004 11:03 AM ET USA

    As much abuse as I heap upon His Eminence, he is only as bad as the people in the pews allow him to be. Which is first - the apostasy of the cardinal or that of his flock? Modern Catholics are bestially ignorant of their faith and traditions. The thought that anything goes (like this bizarre pseudo-Aztec fashion show) is anything but Catholic. The concept of cultural pluralism expressed within the context of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass really is an abomination of desolation.

  • Posted by: AveMaria580 - May. 14, 2004 10:55 AM ET USA

    Mahoney lives in a fantasy world-obviously. One that borders on insanity and may at times cross the line. What does such liturgy nourish and strengthen? This is part of liberalism's make-it-up-as-you-go-religion. If anyone ever does get around to disciplining the bishops, pray they start with Mahoney. This man may well be apostate.

  • Posted by: - May. 14, 2004 10:26 AM ET USA

    Words don't fail me. I recall an FSSP priest saying that the greatest modern evil -- even beyond abortion -- is the world's denial of truth. From this denial spring all other evils. Cardinal Mahony has been at war with truth on a variety of fronts: Catholic doctrine and practice; the scandal of sexual perversion and abuse; civil and criminal law, etc.Why be surprised that he now falsifies logic?

  • Posted by: - May. 14, 2004 10:08 AM ET USA

    Diogenes... without words.....me...gasping for breath. I thought I'd seen it all! It's getting so that I am afraid to look. Sorry to say, this makes my parish look traditional. Is this the "Las Vegas Liturgy"?

  • Posted by: - May. 14, 2004 9:33 AM ET USA

    A memo to His Emminence: God is not mocked...for long.

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