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An obstacle to ecumenism?

By Diogenes (articles ) | Feb 24, 2004

From The Tablet:

The screening that made Gibson most anxious was at Fulco’s university in Los Angeles, where Jesuits watched it during a gathering at Loyola Marymount. Gibson explained to Boyer why he and Lauer were so nervous: “We’re Catholics, right? We’re scared of the Jesuits. Every good Catholic is.”

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  • Posted by: Pseudodionysius - Feb. 24, 2004 10:33 PM ET USA

    Too rich -- the enteric coated Tablet gets all flustered because Gibson kept showing it to "conservatives" (gasp) -- and they didn't even invite Cardinal Kasper (2nd gasp) instead the "Legionnaires of Christ" (queue dramatic organ music and tuba section) and Opus Dei (queue Wagner music). An added bonus was the USCCB "distancing" itself with a Bishop Wilton Gregory style silent film moment which you all remember from the Governor Keating silent film moment. I assume that the NYT disapprove

  • Posted by: Pseudodionysius - Feb. 24, 2004 10:23 PM ET USA

    Come on everyone, you can get back at The Tablet a little bit; I had an enormous amount of fun filling out their customer information so that I could get free access; when it asked how I learned about their publication, I mentioned the Opus Dei website. Unfortunately, there were no options to say daily communicant, weekly trips to the confessional and self flagellation as a form of recreation, but I did do my part for ecumenical dialogue amongst the downtrodden.

  • Posted by: John J Plick - Feb. 24, 2004 4:33 PM ET USA

    “is stumbling into a cinema near you.” “… or an unbiblical, gory depiction by a quirky traditionalist which could fuel anti-Semitism…” “The film is shot in the mostly dead languages” “Should Gibson be allowed to ignore modern scholarship for his own direct rendition?” “Gibson’s direct use of Scripture, unmediated by biblical scholarship…” “Mel returned to the faith of his father with the zeal of a reformed backslider.” from "The Tablet" No bias here...! JP

  • Posted by: John J Plick - Feb. 24, 2004 3:23 PM ET USA

    The spin on this article was incredible. Personally, use of intellect to fulfiill an agenda disgusts me. I intend to sift through the article word by word when I have more time. Until then, I would suggest that people in general ignore this stilted and revisionist analysis, go see the movie and judge for themselves.

  • Posted by: - Feb. 24, 2004 1:05 PM ET USA

    Don't recall "Son of all" being in the Bible. Which translation is that in? Don't recall it being defined in an Ecumenical council either, which is, by definition, inclusive.

  • Posted by: - Feb. 24, 2004 11:36 AM ET USA

    Gibson's comments have a certain quaintness about them -- they give rise, for once, to the valid charge that his sympathies are preconciliar. Catholics concerned about the depredation of the priesthood should be wary of the Jesuits, but I'm sure that's not what he meant. As I recall, one of the audience, in the question and answer period that followed, asked whether the film could be made "more inclusive" by referring to Christ as "the son of all." Gibson's reaction was not recorded.

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