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By Diogenes (bio - articles ) | Nov 13, 2003

Cardinal Keith O'Brien told the Scottish Daily Mirror, "If one of my priests comes to me and says he is going to go off with a man, I would help and counsel him. I would want to see that this was something he really wanted to do, that he had made up his mind to leave the priesthood."

Faced with a declaration like that, where do you begin? Forget the more exotic vices. Transpose the terms into those of an everyday matrimonial commitment.

Mrs. Mary O'Sullivan told the Daily News, "If my husband comes to me and says he is going to go off with a woman, I would help and counsel him. I would want to see that this was something he really wanted to do, that he had made up his mind to forsake his marriage vows."

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  • Posted by: extremeCatholic - Nov. 14, 2003 9:37 AM ET USA

    The lack of a reference to "sin" or even to offense to the Church in the act of "going to go off with a man" begs a question: Why does a priest who is "going to go off with a man" need to stop being a priest at all? The "help and counsel" a sinner needs is to see his need for repentance.

  • Posted by: - Nov. 14, 2003 5:55 AM ET USA

    Diogenes should contrast the comments of Bishop Donald Trautman at the recent USCCB's meeting, during which he urged, to sustained applause, the National Review Board to focus on the efforts of the many good priests -- an irony the Holy Spirit could not let go unremarked when it was revealed that T had shielded a serial child molestor for several years -- printed in the local paper the very day Cheerleader Trautman was making his uplifting comments. provides the details.

  • Posted by: - Nov. 13, 2003 12:03 PM ET USA

    Marriage is a sacrament and Holy Orders are a sacrament. But marriage is only occasionally seen as a sacrament by Catholics and Holy Orders are almost never seen as a sacrament. So, if marriage is disposable, Orders all the more so. And the past few years have made it obvious that many of our priests and bishops see themselves not as bound by a sacrament but entrenched in one sweet career with bullet-proof job security, ready access to cash, the party life. But if it's not working out...

  • Posted by: patriot6908 - Nov. 13, 2003 6:28 AM ET USA

    I do love Pope John Paul II. But given his state of health with all the storms raging about, I suppose that it can't be helped that he doesn't have all his fingers on the keyboard any longer, and we wind up with Keith "Cardinal" O'Brien. How else can one explain his red hat when he really needs to be isolated on one of those rocky Scottish isles?

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