Keith Cardinal O'Brien, on himself:
"What I was trying to say was that when matters are up for discussion I would be only too happy to discuss them and ultimately accept what the decision of our supreme pastor says."
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Posted by: extremeCatholic -
Oct. 22, 2003 4:50 PM ET USA
The problem is that Cardinal O'Brien doesn't act as if he knows what is "up for discussion" and what's been closed to discussion. And if something is "up for discussion" -- is the discussion prudent or imprudent at the present time?
Posted by: Pseudodionysius -
Oct. 22, 2003 9:58 AM ET USA
Translation: Debating orthodoxy with Orthodox Catholics here at the Vatican is a lot tougher (ie I lost every argument) than waxing Wiccan to the she-priest crowd back home. When I said everything was "up for discussion", I didn't think a debate meant "win-lose". I also didn't realize that Doctrine could be assented to by reason, and that dissent requires quite a publishing effort. La oops. They wiped the floor with me in the debate. I am enlightened.
Posted by: -
Oct. 22, 2003 7:12 AM ET USA
Translation: "Yes Holy Father, you are undoubtedly right about celibacy, contraception and homosexuality but, [in his best Joan Rivers impersonation] can we talk...?"