the episcopal perspective
By Diogenes (articles ) | September 27, 2005 6:44 PM
Perhaps a little historical background will help put some recent controversies in a more balanced perspective. In an e-mail of six years past, the Very Reverend Reginald M. Cawcutt, Auxiliary Bishop (now emeritus) of Cape Town, South Africa, calmly discusses the prospect of a Vatican Instruction on homosexual seminarians with fellow clergymen on the Saint Sebastian's Angels listserv. Note that His Excellency believed the document would issue from the CDF, rather than the Congregation for Catholic Education. Take note too of the charity, tranquil benevolence, and deep love for the Church evident throughout.
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 22:03:00 +0200
From: "Reg C"
Subject: Ratzinger and other minor problems
kill him? pray for him? why not just **** him??? any volunteers --ugh!!! Martin [Badenhorst, O.P.], you told us ages ago about the possibility of a letter from him -- can YOU give us any update? Certainly bishops of the world have not yet received anything like this -- certainly not anything to do with gay students or whatever. I do not see how he can possibly do this -- but, if he does, lemme repeat my statement earlier -- that I will cause lotsa **** for him and the Vatican. And that is a promise. MY intention would be simply to ask the question what he intends doing with those priests, bishops (possibly "like me") and cardinals (and I might as well put in popes) who are gay. That should cause **** enough. be assured dear reverend gentlemen I shall let you know the day any such outrageous letter reaches the desks of the ordinaries of the world.
Father Badenhorst's e-mail, to which His Excellency was responding, had been sent five months earlier:
Now for some bad news -- Reg do you have any inside on the next "important document" due from Der Führer's Oberst Ratzinger? I was reliably informed that SCDF and the Congregation for Religious and the thingy for priestly formation are working together on a declaration due in October - and surprise, surprise, it bans homosexuals from entry into religious life or the taking of Orders - what other horrors they contemplate against about 75% of the clergy I shudder to contemplate. I just hope that things become much more toned down than they appear to be at the moment. I am reliably informed that [a since-retired cardinal's] secretary is as flaming as they come (silence on the good [retired cardinal] though), if this idiocy gets through then the queens on the Vatican hill are piercing their own insteps with their stillettoes. Unfortunately I don't have much more information than this. On this rather miserable note... greetings and courage. Martin
What's important, you see, is not orientation but commitment to celibacy.
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Posted by: Vincit omnia amor -
Oct. 01, 2005 12:40 PM ET USA
cincinnatus-I think it might be a cultural thing to have the bottons on that side (European like). Sometimes an image can be flipped also. Bottons on this side or that, he's shown what "side" he's on.
Posted by: cincinnatus -
Sep. 30, 2005 8:24 AM ET USA
It's interesting to see that in the picture accompanying the item Bishop Cawcutt's cassock is buttoned women's style (buttons on the left side of the garment, button-holes on the right). Is he sending an "agenda/preference code?"
Posted by: -
Sep. 28, 2005 7:18 PM ET USA
I think that you have missed a bit Diogenes. Cawcutt resigned as auxilliary Bishop of Cape-Town alright, but I believe that he's back in charge of a parish there!
Posted by: a son of Mary -
Sep. 28, 2005 5:11 PM ET USA
I read this exchange from Diogenes and hoped it was something contrived but apparently that's not the case. And thank you SpecOps for saying what was on my mind that this is Satan-led and this gay subculture is evil in intent and action. Indeed let us clean the church but let us also pray for our holy priests to strengthen them during the trials we will face soon. God bless you SpecOps and may our Blessed Mother protect you.
Posted by: -
Sep. 28, 2005 1:34 PM ET USA
Posted by: -
Sep. 28, 2005 12:58 PM ET USA
Convert 1994, I, too, am a recent convert, but from Methodism. They would also feel welcome in a "High" Methodist church, where a minister can be a lesbian as long as her lover and adopted son stay in the back pew. You'd think they would've been smarter than to write this filth in an email.
Posted by: Convert1994 -
Sep. 28, 2005 10:19 AM ET USA
Somehow I do not see Pope Benedict bowing to pressure from anyone, ESPECIALLY from the US. But the other writers here are correct in that this homosexual clergy cancer needs to be excised NOW. I am a convert from the Episcopal church and all the "Caltholic" dissidents, wannabe priestesses, gay clergy, pro-aborts, gay marriage advocates, Real Presence deniers, et al should go to the Episcopal church where they would have EVERYTHING they desire already in place.
Posted by: Charles134 -
Sep. 28, 2005 9:43 AM ET USA
Bishop Cawcutt was never excommunicated. He's in union with Rome. We should be focusing on the real enemy: Bishop Fellay. Sure Cawcutt suggested sodomizing a Prince of the Church, but Fellay says Mass according to the 1962 Missal.
Posted by: -
Sep. 28, 2005 9:20 AM ET USA
Has it been 6 years already? How time flies.
Posted by: www.inquisition.ca -
Sep. 28, 2005 7:25 AM ET USA
Please, merciful God, grand us a good and joyful Inquisition!
Posted by: Eusebuis1 -
Sep. 27, 2005 7:39 PM ET USA
Let’s all pray for our Holy Father to do what is right – bar homosexuals (i.e., active lavender clothed) from the priesthood as well as homosexual priests and laypersons teaching at seminaries. Pope Benedict will be getting lots of pressure from our US bishops and cardinals to water down or “shelve” the forthcoming instruction at the October Synod.
Posted by: Fr. William -
Sep. 27, 2005 7:30 PM ET USA
Yes, Diogenes, this gives us more perspective. The stables need to be cleaned, thoroughly. May God continue to give Pope Benedict XVI & all the orthodox millennial bishops the courage & holy boldness they need to get this job done. God & His Church never wanted any "Bishop" Cawcutts or "Father" Badenhorsts -- their presence in the Church's hierarchy is the result of the Satan-led gay subculture. Almighty God is now directing the Church to clean the stables. May His Will be done!