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By Phil Lawler (bio - articles ) | Aug 22, 2003

On Wednesday a group of 160 Milwaukee priests called for an end to mandatory clerical celibacy. On Thursday the president of the US bishops' conference called for "honest conversation" on the issue.

If a group of 160 priests called for a return to the Tridentine-rite Mass, do you suppose they'd get the same sort of quick and sympathetic response? How about if a group of 16,000 laymen called for the public excommunication of pro-abortion politicians?

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  • Posted by: Pseudodionysius - Aug. 24, 2003 2:19 PM ET USA

    Fr Wilson said: "Every Byzantine Catholic Church is" Woops. Colour me red. With the Commonwealth spelling of course. When I read Byzantine I immediately assumed Orthodox rather than Catholic. Just as there are Ukranian Catholic and Ukranian Orthodox. BTW, the Ukranian Catholic Churches around these parts don't seem to have liturgical dance, altar girls and our usual Catholic lite travesties that most Roman rite parishes suffer from. 24 rites in Communion with Peter, of which 1 is Roman.

  • Posted by: - Aug. 23, 2003 10:22 PM ET USA

    I probably will not want to hear the answer to this question, but what is the Archbishop of Milwaukee doing about this problem? (I imagine it's not "cracking heads.)

  • Posted by: - Aug. 23, 2003 1:52 PM ET USA

    Pseudodionysius, from what she posted here, birdie IS in communion with the Holy See. Every Byzantine Catholic Church is.

  • Posted by: Pseudodionysius - Aug. 22, 2003 10:28 PM ET USA

    Then birdie, god's blessings to you. The only way we can get you back in Communion with the Holy See, is if we clean up our own decrepit liturgical apostasy here in the Roman Rite of the Catholic Church first. Wouldn't you agree?

  • Posted by: - Aug. 22, 2003 8:26 PM ET USA

    Karen: The bark of Peter is in safe waters in the Byzantine Catholic Church. No altar girls - just half a dozen well-trained altar boys, no extra-ordinary ministers of the Eucharist, no instrumental music - just singing, Christ in His Tabenacle front and center, no one up in front leading the people in silly songs - just the choir up in back, no deviation from the prescribed liturgy, silence in Church, etc. The level of reverence is marvelous. I, for one, have found a home at last.

  • Posted by: John J Plick - Aug. 22, 2003 6:16 PM ET USA

    The crisis within the Catholic Church is not about mistakes,or poor judgments made on the part of bishops.It is not about new research or new discoveries, either.This current crisis was brought on by perversion, lust, greed, and the loss of faith by our bishops.Those bishops within the minority who do not fall into this category,but refuse to take a public stand against those in the errant majority, are cowards.Until we laymen accept this fact and address it,nothing will change.Well??

  • Posted by: Pseudodionysius - Aug. 22, 2003 11:40 AM ET USA

    Why do these people think so many Protestants and Pagans are being called into the Church and converted? When the faithful go lukewarm he casts the fishing nets off the "boat that does not rock" and deep into the sea. And the net casts very wide. 16,000 laymen? Sign me up for the petition.....I think CWNews and EWTN should be able to pull it off...How about 160,000 or 1.6 Million?

  • Posted by: AveMaria580 - Aug. 22, 2003 10:37 AM ET USA

    Whenever, I mention to many Catholics, the abuses of the Liturgy; or the New Age and pagan influence in catechetical material; or, that the feminists within the Catholic Church are not about rights but about power and control, I often get snide remarks about wanting the Latin Mass back. You have no idea how annoyed these people get when they find out I have only been Catholic since 1998. I was actually told 'don't rock the boat.' Why? The bark of Peter can weather any storm. Ideologies can't.

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