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By Diogenes (articles ) | Oct 30, 2007

"Pell Backs Discrimination against Gays" gasps the headline of this Simon Lauder story from Australia. Sydney's archbishop appears to realize perfectly well that, by upholding Church teaching in the public sphere, he's being painted as the first cousin to a klansman. Doesn't seem to rattle him.

Cardinal Pell sees a looming battle between religion and its right to discriminate against gay people, and the push to remove discrimination from laws.

"At the heart of this attack on the concept of exemptions for faith-based agencies, lies a false analogy between alleged discrimination against homosexuals and racial discrimination, and this is already beginning to appear in Australia," he said.

He says it is wrong to compare the ban on inter-racial marriage in the US decades ago with today's ban on gay marriage.

"Same-sex marriage and adoption changes the meaning of marriage, family, parenting and childhood for everyone, not just for homosexual couples," he said.

Refreshing, and encouraging as well. At the point in the dispute where we've come to expect a bishop to backtrack and apologize and cover his retreat with unconvincing effusions of esteem, Pell not only stands his ground but takes the fight into the other guys' territory. He acts as if souls were at stake.

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  • Posted by: - Oct. 31, 2007 1:21 PM ET USA

    Let's see: Pell is in favor of Discrimination. Isn't this contrary to "Love your neighbor as you would love yourself"? And also contrary to recent Church teachings about non-discrimination? Isn't pre-marital and extra-marital [adulterous] relationships worthy of Pell's "Discrimination"? Why is it so hard to love the sinner and hate only the sin?

  • Posted by: - Oct. 31, 2007 1:38 AM ET USA

    The voice of Cardinal Pell is a welcome change from the usual silence of the Australian Bishops. The good Cardinal is celebrating the Motu Proprio with a Mass in St Mary's cathedral on Saturday. (and my 22yo son is Mitre bearer! - yes, I am a proud Mum) Cardinal Pell has stuck his neck out and those of us who love Holy Mother Chruch must pray and fast for him to remain strong.

  • Posted by: - Oct. 30, 2007 7:55 PM ET USA

    Something far too many people either overlook or forget is that it is the "gays", the "heretics", and other fringe groups that have already set themselves apart from the religion and/or society. Why then should they expect that which they've divorced themselves to turn around and acquiesce to their demands? If I choose to not believe what the Church teaches, I'm an idiot if I then expect the Church to change her teachings to accommodate MY beliefs. What's the big deal with all these groups?

  • Posted by: - Oct. 30, 2007 7:35 PM ET USA

    God bless Cardinal Pell for liberating the Gospel.

  • Posted by: - Oct. 30, 2007 7:02 PM ET USA

    What's missing in this debate is the willingness of clergy (and politicians too) to call a spade a spade. Even if the press weren't on the side of gay marriage, they would picture gays as the victim because the press always needs a victim. Gays know this and therefore fashion their arguments to attract press coverage. Hurray for Cardinal Pell and others like him.

  • Posted by: - Oct. 30, 2007 6:56 PM ET USA

    Are we supposed to condemn the the sin but not the sinner? That is an interesting idea. We do let God do the condemning. On the other hand we do not have to give approval to the immoral acts of homosexuals. What's new here? The Church should not be expected to change its teaching to satisfy those who follow some other view.

  • Posted by: - Oct. 30, 2007 6:53 PM ET USA

    Why can't the Lord clone this man and place him in critical dioceses around the world, starting with San Francisco?

  • Posted by: - Oct. 30, 2007 6:10 PM ET USA

    No surprise here. Pell & the other few of whom we are familiar & who take saving souls & delivering true teaching to heart for all. Resplendently, they are persecuted as was Christ. Meanwhile, countless bishops & 150+ Cardinals slither silently by in worldly happiness, do not stand & deliver, do not adhere to the true teachings of the Church; yet, they do complicitly lead many relativisticly into the shadows away from the light of Truth & drown many in the murky depths of our secular world.

  • Posted by: - Oct. 30, 2007 6:05 PM ET USA

    Yes Cornelius, the headline is tendentious. The civil libertarians are, as usual, baying for Cardinal Pell's blood. Thank God we have him in Sydney. The Pope only days ago spoke of us facing persecution and I feel sure that it is coming. It is no good being mealy mouthed. Over in Westminster the Cardinal there spoke of accepting that abortion cannot be stopped so he proposed trying to cut back on the time allowed for this! That is not Cardinal Pell's way of speaking. He tells it how it is.

  • Posted by: - Oct. 30, 2007 4:05 PM ET USA

    The Holy Roman Catholic Church will stand against sin and pray for the sinner no matter what happens in the secular world. Even the host on non-Catholics listen to the Churhe's teaching. If you want to be counter culture in any age and at any time in history, Join the church. If you want to join the mob join some other impulse.

  • Posted by: - Oct. 30, 2007 1:30 PM ET USA

    A more blatantly tendentious news headline I cannot remember ever seeing.

  • Posted by: - Oct. 30, 2007 1:25 PM ET USA

    "He acts as if souls were at stake." Which, of course, they are. Those prelates who lack the fortitude of Cardinal Pell are especially at risk. It is one thing to personally suffer from sexual compulsions. It is another thing to diminish the seriousness of such personal and social devastation or to actually encourage it through false tolerance and condoning of the acts that are sinful and damaging to bodies, minds and souls. It would be good to hear from Archbishop Niederauer on this matter.

  • Posted by: - Oct. 30, 2007 1:24 PM ET USA

    Isn't this the strategy that is most coherent? To pretend that Catholicism is neutral or harmless with regard to homosexual advocacy is ultimately self-defeating.

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