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a lived-experience quiz

By Diogenes (articles ) | Jun 24, 2007

1. At a typical Catholic parish in North America you are most likely to be denied Communion if the pastor knows that you are:

A- the legislative sponsor for legal abortion
B- divorced, and remarried outside the Church
C- wearing the Rainbow Sash to manifest your opposition to Catholic teaching on sexuality
D- kneeling to receive Communion

2. In light of your answer to question #1, would you say that American Church leaders are most determined to uphold:

A- the dignity of human life from conception to natural death
B- the indissolubility of marriage
C- the proper understanding of human sexuality
D- their own policies

3. The last time your bishop openly expressed anger about a newspaper editorial, it was because the column:

A- attacked the Vatican for its opposition to condoms
B- blasphemed the Blessed Sacrament
C- mocked the institution of marriage
D- insulted the bishop personally

4. Your pastor most recently asked the congregation to be particularly sensitive to the needs of:

A- stay-at-home mothers of large families
B- Christians suffering persecution in other countries
C- people with a same-sex attraction struggling to be chaste
D- pastors

5. In light of your answer to questions #3 and #4, do you want to reconsider question #2?

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  • Posted by: - Jun. 28, 2007 2:04 AM ET USA

    Point taken. However, Lefebvre was not Luther--the modern "reformers," however, very much *are* Luther, and--for the moment--they have all the levers of power in the "system." Do whatever you have to to not lose the faith. As for me, I'll go where ever transubstantiation takes place, the rosary is said, ecumenism is condemned, and the true faith is taught. I really don't think you can go wrong if you have devotion to the Immaculate Conception on one hand, to the Blessed Sacrament on the other.

  • Posted by: - Jun. 27, 2007 2:04 PM ET USA

    My dear charlesh, Reformation and disobedience are NOT the best combination..., although it IS in fact a combination. Far better to endure within the "system" preserving one's ideals as a kind of "in-the-breast" virtue. Martin Luther would have done far better if persevering in his valid objections he had not erred in matters of obedience and core doctrine.

  • Posted by: - Jun. 27, 2007 11:21 AM ET USA

    6. In light of 1 - 5 and your own experience, the American church is: A.- more schismatic than the Society of Saint Pius X B- less disobedient than the Society of Saint Pius X C- no longer Catholic in belief D- A and C, but not B.

  • Posted by: - Jun. 26, 2007 4:39 PM ET USA

    Centurion..you are soooooo correct whenyou say, "We have many professional ladder climbers who have as their objective promotion within the Church. Ego maniacs, if you please. Self promotion is their by-word." I live in an archdiocese,in the upper Midwest where the previous archbishop resigned in disgrace in 2002. You would never know it. His replacement has kept on the previous administration who owe their careers to covering up for the predeccesors sexual proclivities.

  • Posted by: - Jun. 26, 2007 3:13 PM ET USA

    The case against more than a few of the bishops is so strong I would think that to defend them would be a little difficult. Bishops are supposed to be our leaders, or so we were taught... The catch-phrase, "The people get the leaders they deserve..." is overused. Is it justified that juvenile delinquents can be abused because they don't "deserve" good parents??? God will be the judge between the remnant of Catholic laity who cling to orthodoxy and these bishops. Repentance is needed.

  • Posted by: - Jun. 26, 2007 12:51 PM ET USA

    The irony in the "D" choices and a no answer at the end lies in the fact they are the trrue answers. We have many professional ladder climbers who have as their objective promotion within the Church. Ego maniacs, if you please. Self promotion is their by-word. Unfortunately, some of the largest and most important dioceses have such leaders. They need to be re-assigned to other duties. The laity deserves better.

  • Posted by: - Jun. 26, 2007 12:42 PM ET USA

    Realizing the need for awareness, I have a problem with blanket-criticisms of the bishops. As a Catholic I often struggle over people who want to tar me with the same brush of whatever scandal is uppermost, so I imagine a bishop reading this column could similarly be discouraged. It is possible to target actions and not a class of people. Fr. Benedict Groeschel, CFR said it in the media (print/b'cast) how under seige bishops are. Stop dumping on them & step up to the plate in your own field.

  • Posted by: - Jun. 25, 2007 8:55 PM ET USA

    Catholicity, I was about to say that you are half right, but in my heart of hearts I do agree with you and Leo XIII. May we become a holier people soon!

  • Posted by: - Jun. 25, 2007 9:23 AM ET USA

    Change "North America" to "Ireland" and I can relate to that.

  • Posted by: - Jun. 24, 2007 8:41 PM ET USA

    D, D, D, D, No.

  • Posted by: - Jun. 24, 2007 5:21 PM ET USA

    God's first act of judgement will be to sift the Catholic Church... And do you think He will ask Rome's permission?

  • Posted by: - Jun. 24, 2007 3:54 PM ET USA

    I agree with Catholicity. A pruning is about to begin. The pruned vines will come from all levels of the church. Some will "prune" themselves through schism; others will drop away. What is left will be loyal to the faith handed down by the apostles. Slowly a critical mass will develop, and it will favor orthodoxy.

  • Posted by: - Jun. 24, 2007 3:40 PM ET USA

    On this day of the Baptist's birth it is a privilege and an honor to take on the Lord's armor with some of the remaining good men in the priesthood. They need our prayers and support. St. Ignatius' Prayer for Generosity Lord, teach me to be generous. Teach me to serve you as you deserve; to give and not to count the cost, to fight and not to heed the wounds, to toil and not to seek for rest, to labor and not to ask for reward, save that of knowing that I do your will.

  • Posted by: - Jun. 24, 2007 3:19 PM ET USA

    Bull’s eye. Despite all their discomfort with strong statements from the Pope (called today by many populating parish offices “The Rat”), or the legitimate exercise of episcopal authority by guys like Burke and Bruskewitz, there are way too many pre-JPII generation pastors who truly believe they are infallible. Honestly, they do. The problem with authority is a two sided coin.

  • Posted by: - Jun. 24, 2007 1:54 PM ET USA

    I think the Church in the U.S. is about to get a lot smaller and a lot holier. Then, after it has gotten holier again, it will grow by leaps and bounds. Why? Because people by nature don't really want a "no commitment, no kidding" faith. Nobody will live for, let alone die for, a weak, watered down pseudo-faith. When authentic Catholic faith is again championed, champions will run with it.

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