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By Diogenes (articles ) | Jan 17, 2007

A Diocese of Phoenix priest who took a leave of absence as a consequence of the Vatican's issuance of the Doomsday Doc has decided to leave the priesthood, according to local media:

Carpenter served for more than eight years as pastor of Christ the King parish in Mesa, Ariz. He also was a leader in the gay-advocate group No Longer Silent: Clergy for Justice. He was one of nine priests who signed the organization's Phoenix Declaration, which affirmed the right of gay men, lesbians and others to participate in Christian churches.

A visit to the website of No Longer Silent reveals that the justice these clergymen are no longer silent about has little to do, e.g., with admission of minorities to the building trades, and rewards us with an open letter to Bishop Thomas Olmsted by yet another Phoenix priest and declaration signatory, Fr. André Boulanger. He sorely misses the dented-Buick bishopric of Thomas O'Brien:

Church documents refer to homosexuality as an intrinsic disorder, a pathological constitution, a perversion of nature, etc. and claim that homosexual acts are always wrong, always opposite to holiness; objectively sinful. I submit that these claims are based on the best human science that existed 1,500 years ago and beyond. These views have found their way into scripture and official church teachings through the centuries. Yet, the best science that we have to this date tells us that homosexuality is not a disorder or pathology, but that it is a variation in the human sexual expression. A variation among many others. It is not a disease, a disorder or a defect.

The same site displays a photo captioned "André at Gay Pride," which illustrates singularly well the rare sense of dignity, grace, decorum, serene maturity of judgment -- in short, the spiritual fatherhood -- that he may be imagined to bring to the priestly life. It seems that Boulanger has decided also to withdraw from active ministry, which means that Olmsted's obstinacy in the face of the "best human science" has deprived the Church in Arizona of two of its most ... its most innovative preparers of young persons for Confirmation. If you have a minute to spare you might drop Bishop Olmsted a note and let him know what you think of his refusal to follow the path of his obligingly adaptable predecessor.


André at Gay Pride (NLS photo).

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  • Posted by: NonSumDignus - Jan. 20, 2007 7:06 AM ET USA

    Major: Sorry but I can't resist. Perhaps he was auditioning to be a "Village People idiot"!

  • Posted by: - Jan. 19, 2007 4:35 PM ET USA

    By the way, the rainbow priest has the convenience of being able to take a short hitchhike over to the new-age community of Sedona. So get your groove on, don some sheep's clothing and go tend the flock there as best as only you know how!

  • Posted by: - Jan. 19, 2007 4:27 PM ET USA

    Was this priest dozing off during class when it was being taught about Christ not asking, but telling, his flock to keep his father's commandments and to "go and sin no more"?

  • Posted by: major - Jan. 18, 2007 7:09 PM ET USA

    When this priest quit, who was really shocked? No one knew he was auditioning for the village idiot? He took fraternal charity WAY too far.

  • Posted by: Fatimabeliever - Jan. 18, 2007 2:34 PM ET USA

    And to think that this priest could possibly bring about God punishing America because enough just stand by and let him get away with making America the next Sodom!

  • Posted by: Fr. William - Jan. 18, 2007 1:55 PM ET USA

    I hope that all such traitorous priests will tell their bishops who they are... & may many more bishops respond with the courage Bishop Olmsted has shown. The folks in the pews need/deserve priests who are striving by God's grace to be holy & obedient to the Faith, imitating Jesus Christ, than to have such priests as Father Andre leading them astray. And if that means 1 priest for every 2 or 3 churches, we can adapt as "the stables are cleaned" & the orthodox vocations continue to step up AMDG.

  • Posted by: 123456 - Jan. 18, 2007 12:52 PM ET USA

    You're right on it, esalkin. Mel Gibson won't want any part of filming this guy's passion.

  • Posted by: - Jan. 18, 2007 12:18 PM ET USA

    "... these claims are based on the best human science that existed 1,500 years ago... scripture and official church teachings ..." What he is really saying is that God did not inspire the Bible nor does he guide the Church. But I am sure that he "loved being a priest."

  • Posted by: Hammer of Heretics - Jan. 18, 2007 12:07 PM ET USA

    These men are confused, as one might expect from those who are engaged in habitual mortal sin. I pray that they might receive even a little light in spite of their sins so that they may have some chance at learning the Truth before they die. Compassion aside, I must commend Bishop Olmstead! Let's pray that he stays steadfast in his commitment to teaching and being a true pastor. If even 25% of the bishops were like him we would be doing great!

  • Posted by: Publicus - Jan. 18, 2007 11:11 AM ET USA

    When will they figure out it's not their silence we desire but repentance?

  • Posted by: - Jan. 17, 2007 9:09 PM ET USA

    And a black belt, too. Always match the belt with the shoes, kiddo. Even if everything else clashes, you just can't get that wrong. So much for that 'infallible' 'queer eye,' for fashion, huh? Wait, though.. it's not about fashion is it? It's style. Perhaps that's an entirely different thing. Maybe just about as different as Loyd Webber is from Palestrina, come to think of it. Funny, isn't it (or maybe not..?)

  • Posted by: - Jan. 17, 2007 9:08 PM ET USA

    And a black belt, too. Always match the belt with the shoes, kiddo. Even if everything else clashes, you just can't get that wrong. So much for that 'infallible' 'queer eye,' for fashion, huh? Wait, though.. it's not about fashion is it? It's style. Perhaps that's an entirely different thing. Maybe just about as different as Cats is from Palestrina, come to think of it. Funny, isn't it (or maybe not..?)

  • Posted by: Pete133 - Jan. 17, 2007 7:34 PM ET USA

    I'm really glad the "gay" group is "No Longer Silent". I wonder just how upset they're going to be when the rest of the group supporting the Pope and the Magisterium stands up and shouts in approval of the rulings, laws, doctrines, etc? Then they might find out the meaning of "silence"--which really helps to pray.

  • Posted by: 123456 - Jan. 17, 2007 6:48 PM ET USA

    I needed some good news, but this picture will not make it to my fridge. Now it will be a bit easier to maintain my equanimity as I wait patiently for the Latin Mass motu proprio.

  • Posted by: Pseudodionysius - Jan. 17, 2007 2:24 PM ET USA

    Its a crime. Look at that photo,carefully. He's wearing brown loafters with dark pants and a shirt

  • Posted by: - Jan. 17, 2007 12:40 PM ET USA

    After a few years of following OTR and entries such as these -- all depressingly similar -- I've come to the conclusion that any male who understands himself to be "gay" has to be suffering from some psychological malady other than SSA even to want to be a Catholic priest in the first place. When Carpenter says, "From now on, I won't formally identify myself as a priest or as `Father' or dress as one," what he really means is that he will no longer "dress up" as a priest.

  • Posted by: - Jan. 17, 2007 12:38 PM ET USA

    Fr. Boulanger's: "Ours is a religion not of laws, rules, regulations and practices; but of love," seems common among those who don't like the Catholic moral tradition. They miss the larger point, that is, that Jesus Christ is perfect Love, as well as perfect Truth, Justice, Beauty, and Being (which would seem to include "laws, rules, regulations and practices"). When Dostoyevsky wrote:"Beauty will save the world" I kinda doubt that he had Father's date in mind.

  • Posted by: - Jan. 17, 2007 12:20 PM ET USA

    Yeah, cry me a river.

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