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By Diogenes (articles ) | Dec 06, 2006

Amy directs us to this video of Barney's Bye-Bye Blessing at Corpus Christi parish in the Diocese of Orange. The performance suggested three questions:

Question #1: In the days before jpegs and video-sharing, what would the chances have been that a sober letter of complaint describing the liturgy as enacted and addressed to the chancery -- any chancery, not just Orange -- would not be dismissed as an exaggeration?

Question #2: How many bishops, do you think, could read the following paragraph out loud and not wet themselves laughing?

It is the right of the Christian people themselves that their diocesan bishop should take care to prevent the occurrence of abuses in ecclesiastical discipline, especially as regards the ministry of the word, the celebration of the sacraments and sacramentals, the worship of God and devotion to the Saints. [Redemptionis Sacramentum §24]

Question #3: I forget the third thing.

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  • Posted by: - Dec. 09, 2006 1:21 PM ET USA

    That man is a clown.I don't know what is worse, the barney outfit or the response of the faithful? to his mocking of the Magistrum. It is any wonder why the Catholic Church is now the laughing stock of the western world when we have been subjected to false teachers like this guy.

  • Posted by: - Dec. 09, 2006 12:27 PM ET USA

    We do pray for these priests. I pray for my children (currently young adults), but let them know when they have stepped over the line and encourage them to amend their ways. There are times when they are unrepentant and the proper authorities need to take action to correct the stuation if it a serious offense. Then I pray all the harder -- as I do for these poor unfortunate souls who make a mockery of their vocation in their immaturity. Sometimes one has to laugh or cry one's eyes dry.

  • Posted by: Abraham Tolemahcs - Dec. 07, 2006 11:56 AM ET USA

    Safe to say that a majority of us do pray for these priests. I do. When a priest has gone off the deep end like Barney obviously has here it's partly due to the laity NOT stepping in sooner & telling Fr. his heterodoxy is disturbing & not cute or entertaining. This video could easily lead one to the conclusion that his consecration was invalid. Form and matter may be present but intent is suspect at best. Write letters but don't hold your breath waiting for him to be laicized.

  • Posted by: voxfem - Dec. 07, 2006 12:52 AM ET USA

    Thanks for introducing me to the crcoa site. I often wonder how much Rome believes of what it hears. Videos like that monstrosity will surely have to have an effect. "Losing" him as a priest can do nothing but add to the Church. How Mary must weep!

  • Posted by: - Dec. 06, 2006 10:26 PM ET USA

    How easy it is for all of us to criticize. It is as if vocal and sustained criticism of an ordained Catholic Priest leads us to greater virtue and humility. I wonder how St. Francis would react in such a situation. Surely, he would condemn the priest as we are. I wonder what would happen if we spent as much time praying for those who have deviated from the faith as we did indignantly criticizing them.

  • Posted by: - Dec. 06, 2006 9:40 PM ET USA

    Unbelievable. I honestly believe that we as part of the Body of Christ have to stand up for what's right and protect the Church. We are going to have to take action (for example, www.crcoa.com) and write to Rome and ask for some discipline. My hypothesis is once this starts getting action and the ridiculous "Barneys" in our U.S. parishes start getting removed, then vocations are going to increase and Church attendance will too. May Our Blessed Lord's holy will be done.

  • Posted by: - Dec. 06, 2006 8:13 PM ET USA

    You keep making and distributing these videos and you know what will happen? Father Barney will get the choice diocesan commitee appointments, be in the in group at the chancery, get to have dinner with Bishop Tod (St Tod?). These videos make us weep for our church but Bishop Tod looks at it and says that Fred is my kind of guy. And therein is the problem. The rot is in the episcopacy.... good pastors and good bishops are marginalized and made fun of. This isnt the exception.

  • Posted by: Pseudodionysius - Dec. 06, 2006 2:57 PM ET USA

    There's something poetic about a heterodox priest dressing as a cartoon dinosaur. Could Tom Wolfe do it any better?

  • Posted by: O'Solanus - Dec. 06, 2006 2:45 PM ET USA

    What a great tool we now have in YouTube. Take a video cam to church and let Rome and the Nuncio see what goes on with the support and approval of many American bishops.

  • Posted by: Meg Q - Dec. 06, 2006 2:04 PM ET USA

    "Abuse"? Don't you understand that an "abuse" constitutes a situation like, oh, I don't know, one of the faithful trying to kneel to receive Communion from her bishop, or others kneeling during the Eucharistic Prayer in contravention of their bishop's orders ( - surely not because of "poor catechesis")? Those are *real* abuses, not some pleasant "experimentation" like this!

  • Posted by: poor soul - Dec. 06, 2006 1:05 PM ET USA

    and to think that there are people concerned that issuing the motu proprio would establish two rites in the Church somehow leading to confusion? I contend that we already have a illicit pluralism of rites under the NO Mass in the Church, which have breaded little else but confusion - and this is only more evidence testifying to just that.

  • Posted by: Eleazar - Dec. 06, 2006 12:18 PM ET USA

    One wonders if God is really watching, and if He is why He didn’t reduce that parish to a glowing cinder, or at least Fr Barney to a pillar of salt. The people of the parish had to know that this particular mass was to be a masquerade, so they are, in my view, equally culpable for the shenanigans that went on. I doubt that anyone who attended cared about the liturgical abuse that was perpetrated, much less knew that what was going on was an affront to the Sacrament.

  • Posted by: khall356157 - Dec. 06, 2006 12:09 PM ET USA

    Maybe #3 was "What is Jesus waiting for?"

  • Posted by: Pseudodionysius - Dec. 06, 2006 11:11 AM ET USA

    This looks like a job for an exorcist.

  • Posted by: - Dec. 06, 2006 10:55 AM ET USA

    These sorts of “abuses” are no longer considered abuses by many that have authority in the Church; they are the inevitable product of a modernized Church, the Church of VC II. Read Sacrosanctum Concilium, with its wishy-washy wording, and one can easily see how the door was opened to such liturgical invention. Besides, the congregation clearly loved it… and purple is an approved liturgical colors. P.S. I especially liked the fellow wearing the devil horns. St. Pius X, ora pro nobis!

  • Posted by: frjimc - Dec. 06, 2006 9:52 AM ET USA

    Note the all-too-frequent "The Lord IS with you" emanating from "Father" Barney. This ubiquitous morphing of an appropriate subjunctive expression of pastoral hope ("May the Lord be with you") into the banality of a highly presumptive observation about the state of perfect grace of everyone present is a product of the theologically bankrupt late 1960's - 1980's seminaries. Lex orandi, lex credendi. Is it any surprise that Barney's confreres believe in universal salvation extra ecclesiam?

  • Posted by: ladybird - Dec. 06, 2006 9:51 AM ET USA

    God Help Them! I thought we had it bad! We're blessed with a holy pastor and Bishop compared to this!

  • Posted by: - Dec. 06, 2006 9:24 AM ET USA

    Is there an e-mail address for Cdl Arinze's congregation(Congregation for the Sacraments and Divine Worship?)? He would be interested in this, I think.

  • Posted by: Ignacio177 - Dec. 06, 2006 7:18 AM ET USA

    I suggest that there are some deep seated psychological problems. Freud would have a field day with this guy. Sexual identity problem? Authority problem? Why does he talk like that? He talks like my aunt Gertrude.

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