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By Diogenes (articles ) | Oct 31, 2006

A Rockville Centre parish yanked a pamphlet from the racks at the back of the church two weeks ago. Because it was contrary to Church doctrine? No, because it advanced the unproven thesis that homosexuality may be a treatable disorder.

The Curé of Ars church in Merrick has removed copies of a glossy green pamphlet called "Homosexuality & Hope" after receiving complaints about the brochure's assertions that homosexuality was a disorder preventable with psychotherapy. ...

[Curé of Ars pastor Fr. Charles] Mangano said he decided on Wednesday night to pull about a hundred pamphlets from the church's literature racks, with support from the Diocese of Rockville Centre. Mangano said he recently received two complaints about the brochure.

"It was a mixture of theory and Catholic teaching," said Sean Dolan, diocese spokesman. "And the theory in some places is dated."

"I don't think anyone knows what the causes of homosexuality are," he added.

Why the Diocese should be concerned that this particular brochure's "theory is dated" is beyond me.

Wait. No it isn't.

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  • Posted by: - Nov. 02, 2006 11:01 PM ET USA

    I can accept that some people have homosexual impulses. I truly believe that no one is exempt from all sorts of sinful impulses. Maybe, some people are less prone to sinful impulses than others, but maybe, and I am inclined to think this, some just try harder, are more disciplined, and have been trained better by their parents. Whether they deserve sympathy, yes, I supppose they do...but as a mother of four children, I find it difficult to feel much for persons that knowingly endanger innocents

  • Posted by: - Nov. 02, 2006 11:16 AM ET USA

    Hannah, please listen to yourself! Certainly just as I was a heterosexual long before I got the chance to kiss kiss a girl, or I wouldn't have longed to in the first case. Can you really not accept that some people find themselves drawn not in the natural way to the opposite sex but to their own gender. They don't ask for that cross. The courageous fight their impulses with God's grace. And some do change. They need our prayers!

  • Posted by: - Nov. 01, 2006 7:38 PM ET USA

    "Hannah, you say one is not a homosexual until he/she acts on the impulse? Was I not a heterosexual before I kissed a girl? If not, what was I?" I don't know, what were you? If I had the impulse to abort my baby, does that make me a murderer? What if I really wanted to loot your house, but changed my mind, am I a thief, or just a person with sinful impulses? We are all different, with different proclivities, but isn't the point of religion for us to develop a conscience and use it?

  • Posted by: placidus - Nov. 01, 2006 12:58 PM ET USA

    Fr. Charles Mangano and Sean Dolan both fit perfectly Lenin's definition of "Useful Idiot": a person who promotes the agenda of a second party [here the gay agenda] while denouncing anything that questions it [here the brochures], not realizing that this agenda is also detrimental to his party [here the Church] as well. Useful Idiots inside the Church, through their being gullible and/or lacking diligence and/or intelligence, actually advance the cause of Her enemies.

  • Posted by: - Nov. 01, 2006 10:04 AM ET USA

    Where can one get the pamphalet??

  • Posted by: - Nov. 01, 2006 5:24 AM ET USA

    This story was on the CBS NY affiliate news last week. The report consisted of an interview in a darkened studio with a fellow with a certian fey timbre to his voice (no joke. was he one of the outraged two? was the other his boyfriend? inq minds w.t.k.!) He'd come to the parish to venerate heart of the Cure of Ars visiting the parish from France. He was so sure the Cure himself would be outraged, etc. etc. I'm so inured, I thought it funny (gallows humor? time for a straight jacket?)

  • Posted by: - Oct. 31, 2006 8:58 PM ET USA

    Hannah, you say one is not a homosexual until he/she acts on the impulse? Was I not a heterosexual before I kissed a girl? If not, what was I? Many who suffer from SSA are baffled and horrified by their proclivities and would give anything to change. SSA sufferers need our prayers.

  • Posted by: - Oct. 31, 2006 7:57 PM ET USA

    How saddened I have become upon reading this entry. I grew up in Merrick, worshipped at Cure' of Ars church, attended grammar school from kindergarten to 8th grade at Cure' of Ars school, even had my first two children Baptised at Cure' of Ars. I never thought the majesty of the Catholic Church with which I was imbued in that stunning church and school could sink so low that it would cease to preach that one must strive to avoid sin. I pray Fr. Mangano has his eyes opened again to truth.

  • Posted by: Aussie - Oct. 31, 2006 7:46 PM ET USA

    If only it took 2 complaints to get Father to follow the Rubrics, or to preach what the Church teaches... life would be bliss.

  • Posted by: - Oct. 31, 2006 2:58 PM ET USA

    Two complaints!?!?!?! In a parrish of thousands they responded so quickly to only 2 complaints! Me thinks I smell a rat.

  • Posted by: frjimc - Oct. 31, 2006 1:44 PM ET USA

    In agreement with hannah, I'd like to offer that nobody knows the causes of alcoholism either, but it doesn't stop churches from giving spaces to AA. Who cares why people have SSA? The bottom line is, it's concupiscence! Unless it's discerned as a personal debility and resisted with the will, it most certainly leads one to behavior contrary to natural law (and God's). Let's call it for what it is -- a disorder -- and let's treat it as we do other disorders.

  • Posted by: - Oct. 31, 2006 12:47 PM ET USA

    "I don't think anyone knows what the causes of homosexuality are," he added. I beg to differ. Just like we know that a murderer isn't a murderer until he chooses to murder, or an adulterer isn't one until the act is committed, or a thief isn't a thief until something is stolen, I think it's safe to say a homosexual isn't one until he acts upon the impulse. Isn't Mr. Priest the one that's supposed to be teaching us about that thing called a conscience?

  • Posted by: - Oct. 31, 2006 12:33 PM ET USA

    and what a sad day for a parish under the patronage of such a great saint. St John Mary Vianney - Pray for us!

  • Posted by: - Oct. 31, 2006 12:28 PM ET USA

    The Rockville diocese . . . Sheeeesh! I went to Mass there one Sunday while visiting. I swear there were at least 10 EXTRA-ordinary ministers, all with glass goblets serving Holy Communion to, at most, 100 worshippers, whilst the priest sat. Needless to say, I refused to participate in such a farce. If a diocese can allow the bastardization of something so holy to this degree, it comes as no surprise that they will permit the removal of any literature that may serve to save one's soul.

  • Posted by: Catholicity - Oct. 31, 2006 11:51 AM ET USA

    St. Paul has a theory as to what causes homosexuality: Rom 1:21-28 For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened…Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity… their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another...

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