God as underachiever
By Diogenes (articles ) | Oct 02, 2006
Dawn Eden caught Mass at St. Ignatius Loyola Church on Park Avenue yesterday. Younger Manhattanites tend to be rigid followers of the strict Vatican line, as you know, especially on matters pertaining to human sexuality. So how did the homilist "challenge" his congregation? How did he push them to look beyond their comfortable ultramontanist prejudices (it was Respect Life Sunday, remember)? Well, by confronting and shaking-up their notorious liberal yuppie bias in favor of Ordinatio sacerdotalis and the all-male priesthood.
Eden eviscerates Father's foppish theology:
The Jesuit then namechecked those priests who had influenced his call to the priesthood -- but another great influence upon him was his mother, he said, a point which led into a call for the ordination of women. Isn't it a tragedy, he suggested, when a woman who is called by the Holy Spirit has to leave her church in order to follow that call?
In other words, in Father Hallinan's view, the Holy Spirit calls certain women to leave the Church. Put another way, it calls the women to a vocation which it has not authorized those in the Vatican to enable. What a pathetic thing the Holy Spirit must be, in Father Hallinan's view, that it has only enough power to sway the odd female here and there -- and has such weak and occasional influence over the Magisterium.
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Posted by: -
Oct. 04, 2006 1:46 PM ET USA
The Jesuits mimic politics in that the radical liberal wing of the Order got control of the Society years ago. Arrupe was the first step toward the disaster that followed;liberation theology was the second. Now this wing of the Society seems to insist on the right to wrong. Pray for the Good Jesuits who suffer under the oppression of current misanthropists.
Posted by: Eleazar -
Oct. 03, 2006 7:21 PM ET USA
But wouldn’t it be nice, if just once, the heavens opened up during one of these heterodox homilies, and a bolt of lightning left a smoldering pile of ash where the likes of Fr. Flapdoodle, SJ, formerly stood?
Posted by: Gino -
Oct. 03, 2006 3:15 PM ET USA
Let's face it; the priest is a Jesuit and nothing from their Order comes across as shocking. We expect inane nonsense from them; it's their standard fare! Come to think of it; if his mother had been a priest; there would be no Father Hallinan SJ!
Posted by: -
Oct. 03, 2006 11:29 AM ET USA
Imagine the outrage if women were unable to play in the NBA and had "...to leave her ..." league "...in order to follow that call?" Oh wait, there is a WNBA! Fr. Hallihan, they can answer the call and become nuns unless all they really hear is the call of power.
Posted by: -
Oct. 03, 2006 10:46 AM ET USA
In the minds of these "enlightened" priests, apparently God the Holy Spirit has erred in leading his mistaken Church into not allowing woman to be priests. With this same line of thinking, eventually they will also come to the enlightened realization that God the Father has also erred, in allowing only woman to concieve, carry and give birth. I guess they will finally be happy when God changes his wrong headed ways and listens to their liberation manifesto of total equalization of the sexes!
Posted by: Canismater -
Oct. 03, 2006 9:36 AM ET USA
Wow! Speaking of the Holy Spirit, he seems to have illumined you guys with more insight than he has his Church. "Moma's boy" the root of all the priestly problems, and priests the root of all the Church's problems. Has anybody called the Pope? We got it all figured out here! David, that man is you.
Posted by: Coemgen -
Oct. 02, 2006 6:13 PM ET USA
Yup, jchrysostom gave a very good description. So, one wonders... what happens to a priest after mommy dies? Whose apron does he cling too? Concerning a particular subset of priests, those who have lost their faculties due to sexual abuse, you will find a large percentage of them living in private residences with priests who are still serving. I think that means we have a number of fathers who are also mothers, or perhaps something even worse... But perhaps it is not as bad as it looks?
Posted by: NonSumDignus -
Oct. 02, 2006 5:38 PM ET USA
jchrysostom: I believe that is the most succinct description of the psychopathology underlying many of today's problems with our clergy that I have ever read. Thank you. Alas, it does not bode well for easy or quick solutions and I fear that the worst is not over. St. John Vianney pray for us!
Posted by: Lucius -
Oct. 02, 2006 5:04 PM ET USA
The new motto for the "Arrupe Jesuits" in NYC not to mention the Brokeback Jesuits at the Urban Center in Boston: Semper Infideles. Sad. It's long overdue to clean house in the Society of Jesus.
Posted by: -
Oct. 02, 2006 4:58 PM ET USA
The spectacle of priests' clinging to their mother's skirts is a long and sorry one that shows the intractable infantilism of many clergy. "Mama's boy" is almost synonomous with "priest," and the link to child sexual abuse, while perhaps not yet verified empirically, certainly seems obvious. What do we expect from "men" who've never really had to worry about Life -- finding a job, feeding one's self, struggling to pay bills? And if they need more cash, they simply steal it from Mommy's purse.
Posted by: Linus682 -
Oct. 02, 2006 2:42 PM ET USA
Just another Jesuit doing his thing! Too bad he is not doing it someplace else.
Posted by: Fr. William -
Oct. 02, 2006 12:48 PM ET USA
Thanks be to God for such people as Dawn Eden to show how Fr. Hallinan was leading the "little ones" to sin on Sunday (Jesus told us on Sunday in Mark 9 that it would be better if a millstone were tied around Fr. Hallinan's neck & he be thrown into the sea). In my parish, folks heard God's call for us to say & do all in the Holy Name of Jesus. And since abortion, sex outside marriage, same-sex unions, the death penalty, are sins & cannot be done His Holy Name, we are to "cut them off."