conspicuous compassion as a non-aggression pact
By Diogenes (articles ) | September 04, 2006 10:25 AM
Thanks to Gerald Augustinus for picking up on this gem from Minneapolis' St. Joan of Arc parish bulletin, written in response to negative reactions to its womenpriest liturgy. Fr. Jim DeBruycker, the pastor, puts us right:
Who is ordained is one of those issues which comes right at the intersection of Traditio and tradita. There is evidence that married men and women were ordained priests, if not bishops, at different times in the Church. From about the seventh century on in the Latin Rite, a celibate clergy become more and more the rule. John Paul II saw it and defined it as part of the Traditio. Of course, a lot of people are not happy with this and feel there is argument for what they see as an older tradition.
How's that for a lucid and well-documented historical overview?
I don't say often enough how much I love being a priest. In all honesty I often don’t invite others into the priesthood because I feel how exclusionary it is to women. I do not have an answer to the pain and anguished burning when those who want to serve are excluded.
This is a pretty good specimen of the comprehensively bogus priest mass-produced in the 1970s and 80s. Posing as a healer of the very resentments he goes out of his way to inflame, DeBruycker then congratulates himself on his compassion. Beautiful.
If Father Jim weren't a fraud, he'd refuse to associate with -- still less draw a salary from -- an institution that had putatively connived in so much injustice. Ordinary folks do it all the time. But then everyone Father deals with -- clergy, congregants, bishop -- wants the scam to be perpetuated, because it makes life easier for all concerned. "Here's the deal: you feed me, clothe me, house me, and provide me with a comfy retirement, and I'll neutralize Church teaching just enough to allow you a sting-less life of public respectibility and hygienic onanism, with the pleasures of moral indignation thrown in." For those who want to cruise through suburbia to the grave as painlessly as possible, what could be better?
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Posted by: -
Sep. 06, 2006 3:12 PM ET USA
Dear Jimmy; Please provide the evidence that "...women were ordained priests..." VALIDLY. "I love being a priest." Is that a new age mantra? Just keep saying it. You might even believe it someday but don't hold your breath.
Posted by: -
Sep. 06, 2006 1:50 PM ET USA
Possibly at some remotely future date evidence of the illegal attempts at ordination of women will be uncovered and used as an argument for women to be ordained. Of course, the true fact of the illigitimate nature of the issue will be lost. That will not make it any more acceptible then than it is unacceptible now. The insane asylums are full of fools who think they are something other than what they are.
Posted by: Fr. William -
Sep. 05, 2006 2:03 PM ET USA
Any possiblity that Abp. Harry "Flynn-flam" Flynn & this priest that he apparently supports, Father Jim "I am the church" DeBruycker, might just join the Episcopalians? Then again, it would take integrity to leave the Church from which they consistently dissent? I mean, has the archbishop himself made one public statement to correct the serious/grave abuses at SJA parish? If not, Abp. Flynn either actually (1) approves of Fr. Jim's mockeries & traitorous deeds, or (2) just doesn't care.
Posted by: -
Sep. 05, 2006 12:18 PM ET USA
Without capital punishment Jesus would not have been able to die on the cross for us. Doesn't seem to fit with some of the modernists views.
Posted by: Pseudodionysius -
Sep. 04, 2006 10:53 PM ET USA
"Here's the deal: you feed me, clothe me, house me, and provide me with a comfy retirement, and I'll neutralize Church teaching just enough to allow you a sting-less life of public respectibility and hygienic onanism, with the pleasures of moral indignation thrown in." Di, that one was a master stroke. With a few tweaks it could be the motto for Boston College's school of theology couldn't it?
Posted by: Brad -
Sep. 04, 2006 9:59 PM ET USA
$1k a month after taxes and zero necessary for housing, property tax, utilities, and health care? That could afford a new leased car every month, plenty of food (if necessary), entertainment, and a few trips for the year. Pretty cushy.
Posted by: Fatimabeliever -
Sep. 04, 2006 5:23 PM ET USA
Sad, but true, here's another priests who wants to take the forbidden apple from Eve and not express sadness that she isn't patterning her life after the Blessed Virgin Mary.
Posted by: parochus -
Sep. 04, 2006 5:18 PM ET USA
Nothing like using faulty theological logic to compound error. Maybe no one will notice . . .
Posted by: Cornelius -
Sep. 04, 2006 2:13 PM ET USA
This line from the Fr's apologia is noteworthy - Theological sanctions against abortion, euthanasia and capital punishment deal with first principles of life and rightly come under the heading of Tradition. I'm not aware of a "theological sanction" against capital punishment that puts it on a par with abortion and euthanasia. Funny, that.
Posted by: Ross Dee -
Sep. 04, 2006 2:08 PM ET USA
There are many people that have to live on $1,000.00 a month. The priests probably get $1,000.00 a month plus they can have free room and board, plus their healthcare is also paid for. If they are still pretty healthy when they retire, they can always help out at a parish and get some extra help with their needs and I think that is great. Holy priests can live with $1,000.00 a month. Too much wealth is not helpful in becoming Holy, so what is more important "quality of life" or Holiness?
Posted by: Coemgen -
Sep. 04, 2006 1:44 PM ET USA
Hm... at one point I thought Fr. Jim might just be a decent guy in a bad position, trying to nudge SJA back to some sense of Catholicism. However, it is clear that he is really just another change-it-if-you-don't-like-it, use-a-broad-brushstroke-to-hide-flaws student of history. He slaps in a couple of latin words to make is sound learned. I'll just keep reciting my mantra, "We are Catholics, not Protestants, ..." and praying that Arbp. Harry's spine stiffens enough to handle the situation.
Posted by: michaelwilmes -
Sep. 04, 2006 12:17 PM ET USA
If I'm not mistaken, Father Altier was assigned to a retirement home (punishment for failing to tow the line of Abshp Harry?). A more severe puishment would have been an assignment to be associate pastor of Saint Joan of Arc.
Posted by: -
Sep. 04, 2006 11:27 AM ET USA
"I love being a priest." Unfortunately, it's THOSE priests that are uttering that phrase (and frequently).
Posted by: andante -
Sep. 04, 2006 10:34 AM ET USA
While I agree with the thrust of your comments about priests who do not support the clear teaching of the Church, I must take issue with your comment about the so-called "cushy retirement". All of the retired priests I know are living on about $1000 a month from their dioceses. That's hardly "cushy"!