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Girls! Girls! Girls!

By Diogenes (articles ) | Apr 04, 2006

Some people are silly. Some people are alarmists. Some people think like Chicken Little.

Some people said, when American dioceses began allowing altar girls, that soon you'd have trouble finding any altar boys.

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  • Posted by: - Apr. 06, 2006 3:12 PM ET USA

    We have a good mix of boys and girls serving at our church. Likewise the Eucharistic ministers. We are all called to serve in some way. Shouldn't we do so in whatever capacity we can. For God, not ourselves. My niece serves. She's 13. She doesn't want to be a priest but she is praying and considering becoming a nun. I'm proud of her and my children, male and female, that serve as well.

  • Posted by: Sterling - Apr. 06, 2006 2:06 PM ET USA

    Didn't anyone in the clergy ever observe the aversion small boys have to being with girls? For a job involving the careful placement of small table-top items, who is usually better - a boy or a girl? Now, what small boy wants to compete with girl when they win? Plus, as creators of TV commercials know, girls may want to buy a certain toy even if a boy holds it, but no boy wants a toy held by a girl. Watch TV and see. Girl-involvement is the kiss of death to small boys.

  • Posted by: TYC127 - Apr. 05, 2006 4:31 PM ET USA

    so.........some people are silly, some people are alarmists!

  • Posted by: R. Spanier (Catholic Canadian) - Apr. 05, 2006 11:14 AM ET USA

    Reading about the lives of women saints it’s clear that faithful women are a gift of God to the Church: “We oppose changing the constant practice of the Church in such liturgical matters as acolytes or "altar servers" and homilists, and repudiate the increasingly frequent practice of women saying parts of the Eucharistic Prayer with the priest or in his place, or performing other liturgical functions reserved to ordained men.” http://www.wf-f.org/FemLangLit.html

  • Posted by: Pseudodionysius - Apr. 05, 2006 10:58 AM ET USA

    I don't know what everyone is panicing about; its not as though you have females in positions of ecclesial delegate authority calling for the disiplining of Bishops in the Catholic Church.

  • Posted by: - Apr. 05, 2006 10:30 AM ET USA

    Fiducia has it right! Feminization? The number of nuns are in decline, while men control all other positions up to pope. I doubt there would have been an abuse crisis with more women in positions of authority. I sometimes even wonder how far the abuse crisis would have progressed if Cardinal Law had grandchildren to bounce on his knee on Sundays.

  • Posted by: - Apr. 05, 2006 9:51 AM ET USA

    This is the same phenomenon as is happening in public schools -- boys are marginalized while education is feminized. Girls dominate student government, have highest test scores, succeed in college; while boys fall back. It used to be a privilege to serve at the altar. Today, Sunday athletic events deflect boys from altar service. Moreoever, there are fewer & fewer young people in church ever since the gringo population began to contracept itself out of existence. Sad state of affairs.

  • Posted by: - Apr. 05, 2006 9:07 AM ET USA

    The result of altar girls, etc., was always predictable and is now ever more obvious, even to the stupid. Those who pushed it had their agenda in mind, not that of the of the Church. Let's face it, JPII made a terrible decision, and the circumstances now seem intractable. At our parish, the Altar scene at the 11 on Sun. is virtually always 11 to 1. Lectors, servers, EMHCs = almost always women. Now they're moving in on "Greeters" and Ushers. They must see it as a kind of power grab. Yuk!!

  • Posted by: zonner - Apr. 05, 2006 8:42 AM ET USA

    At the synod on the laity,Redemptorist Fr..Tom Forrest leader in the Charismatic renewal,in an intervention warned the synod fathers of the "feminization of the sanctuary". He said the day would come when the only male in the sanctuary would be the priest.Fr. Forrest said the church has no problem with women she has a problem with men.The Church ,he said,needs to show a more masculine face if she wants to attract men.

  • Posted by: - Apr. 04, 2006 8:33 PM ET USA

    Why do men watch football at home on Sunday and the women and - girls go to Mass/Church? Men and boys are told that they are unwanted when girls enter into a space that was, at one time, preserved for them. Suddenly, boys have no special place that is theirs. Commerotory is lost, along with the training of future priests at an early age. Girls are given the idea that they can one day be priestesses...YEAAAAAHHH. The destruction of the church by modernisim goes on, and on, and on......

  • Posted by: benedictusoblatus - Apr. 04, 2006 7:45 PM ET USA

    Nauseating.

  • Posted by: - Apr. 04, 2006 3:28 PM ET USA

    At my parish old ladies are the altar servers. Occaisonally a husband wife team will serve, but not very often.

  • Posted by: Canismater - Apr. 04, 2006 1:20 PM ET USA

    You guys should be more careful about mentioning names of parishes without altar stewardesses...big Sister might be watching...

  • Posted by: - Apr. 04, 2006 1:12 PM ET USA

    The novus ordo parish where I worshiped for twenty years was for most of that time staffed by Jesuits. They got around the altar server problem by not having any. As they left one of them lamented that one of their fondest hopes in taking on an active pastoral role had been that it would result in vocations to the Society. None in thirty years. Not just to the Society, to any priestly call.

  • Posted by: Gil125 - Apr. 04, 2006 1:10 PM ET USA

    We still have a very few altar boys in our parish. Very young ones: perhaps third-graders. As soon as they're old enough to tell their parents, NO, and make it stick, they disappear, leaving the job to the girls. Incidentally, none of the "servers" receives any training. So after reading the epistle and the prayers of the faithful, the lector moves the prepared vessels to the altar, where the priest serves himself while the "servers" watch.

  • Posted by: Fiducia - Apr. 04, 2006 1:02 PM ET USA

    The problem with altar service is not that too many girls serve, but rather that too few boys do. The problem with Mass attendance is not that too many older folks come, but rather that too many younger ones stay away. Good priests encourage service from all faithful parishioners; good parishioners heed the call. Good parents push all their children to serve.

  • Posted by: Convert1994 - Apr. 04, 2006 11:35 AM ET USA

    Emmanuel Catholic Church in Dayton, Ohio, has only males at the altar. We have a waiting list for young boys who wish to serve!

  • Posted by: - Apr. 04, 2006 11:29 AM ET USA

    At least the risk of sexual abuse, at least in this case, has gone down by something like 80%.

  • Posted by: patriot6908 - Apr. 04, 2006 10:58 AM ET USA

    There are parishes and churches that maintain male altar servers even in the vast ocean of a hyper-feminized Church. In Chicago, Saint John Cantius and at least the Carmelite Monastery both have only males. It would be interesting to see just how many exceptions there are in the US, Lincoln, NE aside.

  • Posted by: - Apr. 04, 2006 10:39 AM ET USA

    In our former parish, within a year of the arrival of the Modernist pastor, 90% of the lectors, altar servers, and EMs were women. A church without men is as effective as the Catholic church in France - an almost invisible entity. Pope Pius X in 1910 issued the Oath against Modernism. Read it here and you will see an exact description of most priests and bishops: http://www.saint-mike.org/Library/Papal_Library/PiusX/Letters/Modernism_Oath.html Frightening!

  • Posted by: - Apr. 04, 2006 9:49 AM ET USA

    Well isn't that the truth eh? In my parish and many I've visited - there's at least twice as many altar girls as altar boys, er, excuse me...altar servers. This along with EVERY single parish council, ALL women. No wonder the church has become overly feminized! Feminism has spread her spoiled fruits all throughout our society and parishes - St. Peter & Paul pray for us!

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