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a cloture walk with thee

By Diogenes (articles ) | Jan 31, 2006

The Left understands -- and, in moments of candor, admits -- that the attempt to block Alito's nomination was a "Filibuster for Choice." Yesterday's cloture vote was, in effect, a gauge of the senators' willingness to defend abortion. The roll call provides an instructive footnote to Jody Bottum's essay on the evaporation of the political influence of the Catholic hierarchy. Here's the scorecard for states containing a cardinalatial see:

California: 2 senators against cloture.
Illinois: 2 senators against cloture.
Maryland: 2 senators against cloture.
Michigan: 2 senators against cloture.
New York: 2 senators against cloture.
Pennsylvania: 0 senators against cloture.

In the case of Pennsylvania, both senators are Republicans. Other Catholics among the 25 senators voting against cloture were Kerry, Kennedy, Biden, Dodd, Leahy, and Murray. Viewed in terms of legislative history, legalized abortion on demand has proven to be the sole enduring legacy of Catholic politicians in the United States. Small wonder they're panicky at the Alito threat.

Update: Thanks to commenter frjimc for correcting my cloture!

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  • Posted by: - Feb. 01, 2006 4:20 PM ET USA

    Murphy: Do you have hard data for your statement - who by the way are being killed off every day by workers in Hospice- ? As an oncologist I have had to refer many patients for Hospice care and NONE of my patients were KILLED by workers in Hospice. If you have HARD DATA we in the medical profession need to know this so we can refer this matter to the appropriate Attorney General. Thank you. José, MD.

  • Posted by: principle not pragmatism - Feb. 01, 2006 3:33 PM ET USA

    Can we send all these comments to the members of the USCCB?

  • Posted by: - Feb. 01, 2006 1:40 PM ET USA

    Lest we forget, Our Bishops fight with one another continuously over power and truth. Some of them wouldn't know the truth of God if it landed on their heads. Lets look at these so called cardinalatial sees that the dissenting senators are coming from, each of the Bishops from these sees are just as liberal in their theology as their senators are with their politics. How can we expect the light of the truth to come forth from these areas of the county when they are steeped in darkness?

  • Posted by: Vincit omnia amor - Feb. 01, 2006 1:23 PM ET USA

    I agree with the posts on the sad state of the Episcopacy. Have heard more then one Bishop make remarks to the effect that it's a "us vs. them" thing. In otherwords, the U.S. Bishops seem to use the organization of the conference for leverage against even legit and sound instructions, pronouncements, etc. from the Holy See. We know it's the Catholic Church in America, NOT the American Church.

  • Posted by: murphy - Feb. 01, 2006 9:22 AM ET USA

    How can this be? We were instilled with courage to fight for what is right by the very people who have betrayed us. Are we or are we not the Church Militant? I believe we are and our top Generals have abandoned us to the enemy without any ammunition. Similar to Stalingrad during WWII. So, let us stand firm, together, against all those who wish to distroy our right to life. especially the unborn and the elderly (who by the way are being killed off every day by the workers in Hospice)

  • Posted by: - Feb. 01, 2006 8:54 AM ET USA

    Must it be up to future historians to admit that giving individual "Magisterial" status to national bishop's organizations was yet another unheralded tragic mistake in the wake of VCII. Coupled with the demise of discipline and the serious downplay of doctrine in a misguided effort to laud ecumenism, why is any traditional Catholic surprised at the sad state of the Church in America and the corrosive "modern world"? Do we need another council to save the Church from the modern world?

  • Posted by: - Feb. 01, 2006 7:54 AM ET USA

    I agree with Sir William and others who are critical of the U.S. Bishops. He said courage comes not from a position of power, but from humility. I have had disappointing personal experience with some of our bishops, and I am convinced that most of them are political animals, exhibiting ambition to rise in the ranks early in their careers. As another commenter said, if they want to be a bishop, they probably shouldn't be. Most clearly lack humility.

  • Posted by: - Jan. 31, 2006 3:32 PM ET USA

    Please use a small c in the phrase "catholic politicians in the United States" or at least place it in quotes with an accompanying "so-called."

  • Posted by: Vincit omnia amor - Jan. 31, 2006 3:13 PM ET USA

    Di, Though Boston has an ArchBishop, couldn't it still be seen as a "cardinalatial see," since it's tradionally been such? Sad stats, just the same.

  • Posted by: John J Plick - Jan. 31, 2006 2:30 PM ET USA

    Two points... both..., rather disturbing First, it seems to me that often Rome seems to be relying on the American Civil Government to practically "clean up" the Catholic Church instead of leading the way Herself Second, it seem that we American Catholics are getting in the habit of rationalizing and joking about greivously scandalous situations instead of taking real spiritual and social (WITHIN the Church) action regarding them This picture is not comical in the least, a horror really

  • Posted by: avicenna - Jan. 31, 2006 1:26 PM ET USA

    The bishops, at least in theory, get the message. it would be great if the lay faithful, individually (not with petitions) and with civility and courtesy, would approach the local pastor and ask for strong and clear leadership in this matter, "storming" the rectory with a respectful determination.

  • Posted by: patriot6908 - Jan. 31, 2006 12:50 PM ET USA

    It's a pretty sick comment on the state of mainstream Catholicism in the United States but not one that is unexpected. Our bishops, by and large, have been a disaster at a time when we are passing the 45 million mark in the estimated number of unborn children murdered by abortion since 1973. Here and there, a true shepherd speaks out--but for the rest, as the saying goes, "There ain't no sheep like most shepherds." May God have mercy on their cowardly souls.

  • Posted by: Sir William - Jan. 31, 2006 12:19 PM ET USA

    Consalvi - my thoughts exactly. Unless our bishops begin to prefer the scandal of the Gospel, we will continue to see the scandal of the culture of death. Courage comes not from a position of power but from humility. A note to the Pope: If they *want* to be bishop --- they probably aren't fit to be bishop.

  • Posted by: Eleazar - Jan. 31, 2006 11:57 AM ET USA

    “You can't speak Truth to power, when power is what you prefer.” Well said, but our apostate politicians are beyond teaching. The bishops must find the moral courage to discipline the dissidents. Only when they treat the Magisterium seriously and apply the sanctions provided by Canon Law will the Kennedys, Kerrys and Peolosis either get with the program or get out.

  • Posted by: - Jan. 31, 2006 11:31 AM ET USA

    Unless the U.S. Bishops really commit themselves to teaching clearly, then this scandal of Catholic politicians vehemently supporting the culture of death will remain. Too many Bishops are too comfortable with the "powers that be" and fund many of their morally questionable social programs. You can't speak Truth to power, when power is what you prefer.

  • Posted by: - Jan. 31, 2006 11:01 AM ET USA

    Unfortunately, with Justice Kennedy's erratic voting record, Alito's nomination is not as great a threat as it otherwise would be if the Catholic justices all voted according to Catholic principles. The replacement of the next Supreme Court Justice (presumably Stevens) will be crucial and it will make the Alito hearings look like a picnic if we still have a Republican in the White House and a true constitutionalist is nominated.

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