way, way out there
By Diogenes (articles ) | November 01, 2005 11:51 AM
It's Ex Corde Ecclesiae time, folks. Get your checkbooks out, tear off a check, and write "Santa Clara University" clearly in the payee line. All done? Good. Now read the following AP story:
More than 40 Catholic colleges were represented on Saturday at a conference that was billed as the nation's first on how gays and lesbians fit in at universities guided by a faith that says their sexual orientation is wrong. But rather than lamenting the Catholic Church's stand on homosexuality, the two-day "Out There" conference at Santa Clara University showed that plenty of gay-related scholarship and student affairs planning is going on in Catholic higher education, said co-organizer Linda Garber. ...
The conference drew about 150 people, most of them faculty and administrators who deal with gay subject matter or students. Topics included "Curriculum and Same-Sex Marriage in a Jesuit University" and "Can I Be Gay and Catholic?" ...
One sign of how far the universities have come in openly addressing gay issues is that the dean's office and campus ministry at Jesuit-run Santa Clara provided money for the event, while the school's president sent a welcome letter to participants, said Lisa Millora, assistant dean for student life.
"There are a lot of people who subscribe to Catholic values as they relate to academic work, but don't necessarily agree with how the Catholic Church carries out its work," Millora said.
Lisa dear, you took the words out of my mouth.
OK, pens at the ready? Now: on a separate piece of paper write down what you estimate it costs a priest with a vow of poverty to live for a month. Multiply that figure by the number of Catholic doctrines you understand "Jesuit-run Santa Clara" to have defended by sponsoring the "Out There" conference, write the result total on the payment line of your check, and pop it in the mail.
Oh, and send along your scrap paper so Campus Ministry can check your calculations.
(tip to Seattle Catholic).
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Posted by: Novus744 -
Nov. 03, 2005 2:46 PM ET USA
HEY! What is this! No matter how I change my estimate of what it costs a priest to live for a month, I still come up with zero!
Posted by: Meg Q -
Nov. 02, 2005 6:00 PM ET USA
I'd say that this conference is "Out There", but unfortunately for a Catholic U it's not so far "out there" these days . . .
Posted by: Ignacio177 -
Nov. 02, 2005 4:22 AM ET USA
I say this with absolute certainty: This is not the Jesuit University that Saint Ignatius wanted.
Posted by: benedictusoblatus -
Nov. 02, 2005 12:08 AM ET USA
One trick I learned for triaging in the Army is to holler at a big group of patients: "everyone who can, walk over here and sit down." Those who do are probably okay enough to wait while you attend to the needs of the others. It is long past time for the Pope to do the same in the Church. "Hey if you believe in ... come over here and stand by me." For the rest, hand them over to their prince until they have come to their senses. The Church is not colleges, hospitals, etc. It is souls.
Posted by: Venerable Aussie -
Nov. 01, 2005 10:02 PM ET USA
Diogenes, I don't understand how you can use the words "multiply" and "gay and lesbian" in the same post. Is there some queer relationship?
Posted by: Vincit omnia amor -
Nov. 01, 2005 7:40 PM ET USA
with regard to the Jesuits: "where there's death, there's hope!" All Jesuit Saints in Glory, pray for your comrades of this day and time.
Posted by: Fr. William -
Nov. 01, 2005 5:01 PM ET USA
Gee, Diogenes, I was not one who liked mathematics very much... but this one is easy. Since the number of Catholic doctrines that "Jesuit-run Santa Clara" has defended by going "way-out-there' & sponsoring a sodomite-supporters conference is exactly ZERO, and any number multiplied by zero is zero... then I get to write a check for zero dollars and zero cents (of course, I'll include a charitable letter to the folks in charge at the Clearly-non-Catholic Santa Clara U. Great idea, Diogenes.