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in Allah's name we pray

By Diogenes (articles ) | Sep 16, 2005

At Catholic University, a Catholic archbishop ends a public meeting this way:

In the name of Allah, the merciful and compassionate God, we pray. Amen.

It isn't the first time, apparently. Earlier in his remarks, Cardinal McCarrick told his distinguished guest: "I asked Allah, the compassionate and merciful Lord of all the world, to bless you..." And later he added: "May Allah, the merciful and compassionate, continue to guide your steps along this noble path."

Please bow your head and join Uncle Di in prayer that Allah, the merciful, will speed the Pope's acceptance of ecclesiastical resignation letters.

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  • Posted by: Pseudodionysius - Sep. 21, 2005 11:32 AM ET USA

    Question: If I had been forcibly converted to Islam in, say, Sudan. Would I find Cardinal McCarrick's offensive? Perhaps we prefer Darfur.

  • Posted by: - Sep. 21, 2005 1:08 AM ET USA

    As stated, at Catholic University of America’s website they already pulled the speech and pretended it was an erroneous address stating: “Error 404: Document Not Found”. Perhaps they should have said “Document Pulled”. Thank you Janet Baker (of restore dc Catholicism) for posting the original document.

  • Posted by: Janet Baker - Sep. 20, 2005 7:45 PM ET USA

    Diogenes et al, the link to his talk that you cite no longer exists. Fortunately, someone emailed to me the complete text of the toadying episode. To see it, go to my website www.restore-DC-Catholicism.com and take a gander. Sadly, it's true that the Holy Father declined to accept the Cardinal's resignation. However, I'm urging all to contact him and the Nuncio to have them reconsider in light of this idolotry. He's my bishop - or imam, as the case may be.

  • Posted by: - Sep. 20, 2005 8:54 AM ET USA

    Is there no group left for this degenerate to pander to?

  • Posted by: R. Spanier (Catholic Canadian) - Sep. 19, 2005 10:11 PM ET USA

    My previous note should have stated, Allah to a Muslim does not mean… Allah, to an Arab Christian does mean the Most Holy Trinity. My apologies.

  • Posted by: garedawg - Sep. 19, 2005 12:13 PM ET USA

    Good point, Pier Giorgio. It does seem rather schmaltzy and ingratiating. If he was uncomfortable invoking the Holy Trinity around his Muslim guests, that's one thing, but he could have just said "God" and left it at that. Oh, well - at least he didn't say the A-word at a youth retreat.

  • Posted by: Vincit omnia amor - Sep. 19, 2005 11:33 AM ET USA

    regardless of the theological/dogmatic/doctrinal implications his use of "allah" just strikes one as schmaltzy. Also, I don't think it unimaginable that the Mohammedans thought to themselves on hearing a Prince of the Church utter such nonsense, "Europe is basically already ours, and America is looking all the more conquerable."

  • Posted by: - Sep. 18, 2005 9:08 PM ET USA

    Sorry, gairdawg, I don't buy (841) the Lumen Gentium version of things. We worship the Triune God, Moslems don't. And the adherents of Islam refer to non-Moslems as "infidels." (See a good dictionary here; if one isn't a Moslem, one is an infidel.) If I am an infidel, then I don't share the same faith with these folks. How, then, can anyone say we worship the same God? And, please, don't try that "God of Abraham" stuff on me. That's ecumenistic tripe (in my humble opinion).

  • Posted by: Fr. William - Sep. 18, 2005 8:30 PM ET USA

    Facts: Cdl.McCarrick is a Roman Catholic, a successor to the Apostles, appointed by the Holy Father as chief teacher in Wash. DC; Muslims are NOT Christians (CCC 839-ff); at best, his non-Christian prayers confuse Roman Catholics; at worst, they smack of evil traitorism. Questions: Why would a successor to the Apostles hide the fullness of the Faith by praying as a non-Christian? In the Name of God the Father, Son & Holy Spirit, why has the Holy Father not accepted McCarrick's retirement?

  • Posted by: R. Spanier (Catholic Canadian) - Sep. 17, 2005 6:36 PM ET USA

    Allah does not mean the "undivided Trinity, which in and through Christ is the fount and the source of all holiness" (Lumen Gentium, 47). According to the Qur'an, 4:171, Jesus "was only a messenger of Allah" and "say not 'Three' - Cease! (it is) better for you! - Allah is only One God. Far is it removed from His Transcendent Majesty that He should have a son." CCC #841 shows shared beliefs of Islam & Christianity: adoration of "the one, merciful God, mankind’s judge on the last day." (LG 16)

  • Posted by: Eusebuis1 - Sep. 17, 2005 1:46 PM ET USA

    It's not just a question of prudence of using Allah, he could have said "our God." Instead he must have felt "uncomfortable" -- like he did about denying outspoken pro-abortion politicians communiion. A Catholic archbishop must keep and preach the teachings of the Church -- not parse the meaning of paragraph 841 Being politically correct all the time waters down everyone faith. Does one thing the Moslems felt warmer toward the prelate and Catholic Church after these prayers.

  • Posted by: extremeCatholic - Sep. 17, 2005 1:32 PM ET USA

    In English it is incorrect to say that "Allah" and "God" are identical. For people who know they are not identical it is bad faith on their part to insist on an identity which does not exist when misunderstanding is forseeable (or even intended). What we share with Muslims is significant but not enough to have a common understanding of what is meant by "God/Allah's blessing", "God/Allah's peace", etc. because starting with God's nature, we disagee .Peace as "order+freedom" or as "submission".

  • Posted by: - Sep. 17, 2005 12:12 PM ET USA

    I'm in a war zone at the moment, where the adherents invoke "Allah" to be the agent of my destruction. It's a good thing the military doesn't allow those of McCarrick's predelictions to sally about in a uniform. I also guess that McCarrick's Allah, at least as interpreted by most of Isam's adherents, is wont to put homosexuals to death.

  • Posted by: garedawg - Sep. 17, 2005 10:49 AM ET USA

    Sorry, Altar Boy. According the the Catechism (paragraph 841), they do worship the same God, although they do have incorrect ideas about Him. Nothing the Cardinal said was incorrect. I suppose one could question the prudence of using a specifically Muslim expression, though.

  • Posted by: Eusebuis1 - Sep. 16, 2005 8:03 PM ET USA

    Where did the Cardinal get is Catholic formation? If God can be any god, then why shouldn't we all become Moslems. The Moslems certainly do not believe that Jesus Christ is God. To the Moslems there is only one God - Allah. I hope and pray that Cardinal McCarrick was just speaking "kindness" and "love" but knows what difference between Christian and Moslem doctrine?

  • Posted by: Gil125 - Sep. 16, 2005 6:42 PM ET USA

    Pier Giorgio, he's already submitted his resignation but Rome hasn't accepted it. If this doesn't speed the process, I would guess that I'm not the only one who will find his enthusiasm for the new Holy Father waning.

  • Posted by: Vincit omnia amor - Sep. 16, 2005 4:43 PM ET USA

    What a swell guy he is to do that! NOW JUST RESIGN DEAR CARDINAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PRETTY PLEASE!?

  • Posted by: a son of Mary - Sep. 16, 2005 4:41 PM ET USA

    to follow up, the Cardinals comments seriously bother me. He does not need to be a toady. Muslims do not respect comments like this. I bet you a buck the Orthodox and Melkite Catholic Christians of the Washington DC area are seriously unhappy with him. OTOH, I could be wrong.

  • Posted by: a son of Mary - Sep. 16, 2005 4:39 PM ET USA

    actually, most Arab Christians use the term "al-Maseeh', the Messiah. They are often called by Muslims (not Mohammedans) as Nazranis usually this is used in a derogatory fashion. That means someone from Nazareth. Although Jesus often said something akin to "Peace be upon you" they rarely say "Salamalaykum" (salam - peace, alay- on, kum - you). Instead of "al-humdilila" (thanks to God) they say nushkr allah - we thank God. Lingustically, there are significant differences. fwiw.

  • Posted by: Pseudodionysius - Sep. 16, 2005 3:39 PM ET USA

    Do you suppose that its considered bad form in such a situation to begin singing Chesterton's poem Lepanto?

  • Posted by: Pseudodionysius - Sep. 16, 2005 3:37 PM ET USA

    You uncharitable souls. Its Mufti Ratzinger.

  • Posted by: principle not pragmatism - Sep. 16, 2005 2:45 PM ET USA

    If my memory serves me right, was it not McCarrick who lied to the other Bishops, when he quoted what then Cardinal Ratzinger wrote to him on Catholic Politicians recieving the Eucharist?

  • Posted by: - Sep. 16, 2005 2:17 PM ET USA

    Gairdawg, How about the Cardinal was ingratiating himself in an especially repugnant way. Islam the religion of peace. Don't want to offend the Moslems, must be polite. These types of bishops are selling away our birthright with this spineless deference to all the enemies of the church, and I do believe Islam is an enemy of the church. It has been historically, it still is, and will be in the future. Go read some Belloc.

  • Posted by: Novus744 - Sep. 16, 2005 2:01 PM ET USA

    Amen, Altar Boy.

  • Posted by: westcoast subscriber - Sep. 16, 2005 1:04 PM ET USA

    Altar Boy, Thank you! I recoiled when I read the news item, and you gave voice to my concerns. My reaction comes from my familiarity with C.S. Lewis (The Last Battle) and Lois DeWohl (The Last Crusader), which are adimitedly low in the heirarchy of sources of truth, but valuable to me for they teach the truth through compelling stories.

  • Posted by: - Sep. 16, 2005 11:56 AM ET USA

    gairdawg: Catholics don't pray to Allah or in the name of Allah. The Mohammedan’s Allah is a false god. To have a prince of the Church invoke a false god brings scandal to the Church. And Catholics don't compromise the Faith in some silly effort to be polite. McCarrick should have offered the infidels the Peace of the Lord Jesus Christ, which is, the Church tells us, the only way to attain salvation.

  • Posted by: garedawg - Sep. 16, 2005 11:18 AM ET USA

    Oh, big deal. Even Arab Christians call God "Allah", and He certainly is merciful and compassionate. Sounds to me like the Cardinal was just trying to be polite.

  • Posted by: Eleazar - Sep. 16, 2005 11:17 AM ET USA

    Explains why McCarrick's Catholicism is so wimpy...he's on the wrong prayer rug.

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