renewal pays off
By Diogenes (articles ) | Sep 08, 2005
How many priestly ordinations did the Archdiocese of Dublin have this year?
That's right, folks. This year was "the first in the history of the diocese," according to Archbishop Diarmuid Martin, "that we have not had a priestly ordination."
Of course we have to take into consideration the quality of our newly ordained and not simply the quantity. We are an Easter People.
P.S. No good asking the Archbishop if something needs to change: he's already on record: "I am surprised at the superficiality and the anecdotal evidence I am presented with when I ask about concrete pastoral options and about the situation of the faith in Ireland."
You got me there, Excellency. No priests. Doesn't get more superficial than that.
Tip to Papabile.
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Posted by: Gil125 -
Sep. 09, 2005 6:46 PM ET USA
FYI, Catholic San Francisco, Abp. Levada's former paper, had a one-paragraph Brief today on the fact that Ireland's one remaining seminary has 19 first-year seminarians this year, for a total of 75, vs. 63 last year. The story does admit that since the '40's vocations have shrunk from thousands a year to dozens [well, a dozen and a half], but it omits the fact that nobody was ordained this year.
Posted by: Coco -
Sep. 09, 2005 10:06 AM ET USA
Yes, and I suppose Jonathan Swift never pronounced the English as "bad" or "good," just used suggestive comments, a kind of code if you will... It's called SATIRE! BTW, some here certainly employ suggestive comments without calling Di "good" or "bad" yet I can read the "code"--BEWARE! There's something sinister in what Di "suggests"!
Posted by: Pseudodionysius -
Sep. 09, 2005 9:05 AM ET USA
I'm finding that reading Uncle Di and then surfing to read Whispers in the Loggia is even more entertaining than reading Uncle Di alone. I do think that the snubbing of Newman's Irish University initiative is coming home to roost in today's luck of the Irish.
Posted by: -
Sep. 09, 2005 8:23 AM ET USA
Di's satire is effective because in such a frustrating time we must laugh and satire is a type of humor. Dublin had no ordinations! As Hamlet said "something's rotten in the state of Denmark. The country that sent missionaries to the world is losing it's faith like the rest of Europe. The bishops of the world have to lead by examples of holy lives. It's a joke if we believe they mostly are, especially in Europe and the U.S. Jesus knocked over tables and carried a whip. We need that now.
Posted by: -
Sep. 09, 2005 7:12 AM ET USA
No ordinations and a shortage of priests.Lay"chaplains" in hospitals and schools.Cutbacks in Masses and the seminary closed.That is Dublin. Yet in the June 2005 diocesan appointments no fewer than 10 active priests were given sabbatical leave or leave of absence.To do what?Thats the mystery.Many go to California. Much good that will be for their priesthood.One wise old priest who has never had such leave described it as licensed idling.He is right.Priest shortage indeed!
Posted by: MM -
Sep. 09, 2005 5:53 AM ET USA
its amazing the way these guys, after relentlessly promoting a "lite" form of the Faith for decades, actually seem surprised to discover things like dwindling Mass attendance and vocations drying up. not that they'll do anything effective to reverse it. nope - its obviously just the irredeemable nature of modern society. maybe they'll be a little less complacent when they start running out of collection plate money.
Posted by: -
Sep. 08, 2005 11:28 PM ET USA
Gresham's Law of Currency says something like "the circulation of intrinsically worthless currency will drive worthy currency out circulation". Is this what we're looking at? Are gay priests the pressed-paper coins of our situation? (BTW, Gresham's Law is waaay out of my field, so I apologize if I have misrepresented it)
Posted by: John J Plick -
Sep. 08, 2005 7:20 PM ET USA
Interesting thing, Diogene, but I think I have your number. I have wondered why of late your satirical biting ciomments don't do it for me anymore The "New Orleans" thing gave it away. You almost NEVER pronounce anything "good" or "bad." You generally just make suggestive comments..., a kind of code if you will That way you avoid any accusation of rebellion or usurpation of the right of the clergy to have the last word Voodo, sensuality and 100s of Mardi Gras' but don't say bad!