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blame the Vatican

By Diogenes (articles ) | August 31, 2005 11:14 AM

The next time someone asks you to comment on the prospects of rapprochement between the Vatican and the Russian Orthodox patriarchate of Moscow, think about this.

OK, so there's one historian ready to blame the Vatican for an 18th-century war between Russia and the Ottoman Empire. It takes all kinds. But the fact that sober Russians take this seriously-- that they are disposed to see their nation as engaged in a crusade for Christian honor, with the Vatican (not the Turks) as the bad guys-- tells us something about the depth of hostility to Rome.

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  • Posted by: - Aug. 31, 2005 10:58 PM ET USA

    Having been an Orthodox Christian for 13 years until reverting back to the Catholic Church in 2003, I think that many Russians and other Orthodox Christians would happily acknowledge the Pope's primacy of honor among Christian bishops (1st among =s). Primacy of *authority*, however, isn't accepted. Eastern Christians tend to believe that the West hasn't taken seriously E. Christianity's status as a shock absorber of Islamic invasions and views the Christian E. (despite gestures) as inferior.

  • Posted by: benedictusoblatus - Aug. 31, 2005 11:27 AM ET USA

    This can't be ... Russia was consecrated to the Immaculate Heart of Mary as Our Lady requested at Fatima. She promised the country would be converted. It can't be ... unless we really DIDN'T hold up our end of the deal. Maybe the Holy Father's consecration of 1984 didn't "qualify" due to defect of form (no specific mention of Russia)??? It could be that bad news is really good news, just like so many of the fruits of the Springtime in the Church since the 2nd Vatican Council.

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