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By Diogenes (articles ) | Aug 22, 2005

Amy Welborn makes the following modest proposal for WYD 2008:

Wouldn't it be a great idea if, in the three years before Sydney, the call went out to teach young people everywhere the Pater Noster, Ave Maria and Sign of the Cross in Latin? We could avoid all of the "Ohmygawdprevaticantwo" tremors by saying how AWESOME it would be for hundreds of thousands of young people to be able to actually pray together in one language in 2008 - what a powerful symbol and experience it would be. If we could just tease such a modest goal out from other agendas and fears, it could be a great moment.

Perhaps if the Kyrie eleison were added, and it were pointed out that this is Greek, it might be taken a gesture of benevolence toward the Orthodox as well.

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  • Posted by: a son of Mary - Aug. 24, 2005 6:18 PM ET USA

    spec ops sac - thanks for the tip! i will do the needful. the first time i was in iraq, i waited for months for a priest for mass and confession. you would have made a great chaplain.

  • Posted by: AveMaria580 - Aug. 23, 2005 2:33 PM ET USA

    Tunes not reflecting the mood of the prayer text I can understand. I went to our Saturday evening Mass because that is the only time the classical organist plays. I forgot it was the parish festival week-end when they have the polka Mass. If you have never heard the Sanctus, Agnus Dei and Amen (in English of course) sung to polka music, it is an experience you definitely want to miss.

  • Posted by: - Aug. 23, 2005 12:36 AM ET USA

    Actually, they used some Latin texts for the Liturgy at WYD. But the tunes were untraditional and did not reflect the mood of the prayer texts. The music over-all at the Mass was not inspiring or befitting the holy Liturgy of the Church

  • Posted by: Fr. William - Aug. 22, 2005 11:59 PM ET USA

    son of Mary: Thanks. "Sacerdos" is latin for "priest." I'm not a Marine, but wanted to be a chaplain for them (denied by my bishop at the time. God wanted me to stay in the diocese as a "special ops" for His Church). Sacred music: "adoremus.org" & "ewtn.com" & "solesmes.com" (most hymnals should have "Kyrie" "Sanctus" & "Agnus Dei" toward the front or back of the book). I've drawn some fire for the Latin/Greek Chant, but that will never stop what Jesus & His Church command. Semper Fi. AMDG.

  • Posted by: a son of Mary - Aug. 22, 2005 7:04 PM ET USA

    teasing aside sacerdos, where can i find these prayers in latin? i would love to learn them - i became an altar boy in 4th grade and just started learning some latin when the church bailed on latin. it'd be wonderful gift to teach my children - daughter 7 and son who was just baptized yesterday - he's 6. maybe there are some mp3's/ipod-able prayers in latin somewhere?

  • Posted by: a son of Mary - Aug. 22, 2005 7:00 PM ET USA

    special ops sacerdos-had no idea you were a priest! May Our Blessed Virgin Mary keep and protect you! i'm chuckling because i thought i saw a semper fi once on one of your notes. always nice to see a devil dog in God's uniform. note to all: semper fidelis is the USMC motto. devil dogs are what the germans called marines during ww1. marines call each other devil dogs .. amongst some other names... so i'm not insulting sacerdos, unless he's not a marine. in that case he needs more prayers!

  • Posted by: Gil125 - Aug. 22, 2005 5:30 PM ET USA

    Let's pray for more priests like special ops sacerdos.

  • Posted by: Fr. William - Aug. 22, 2005 3:24 PM ET USA

    I've already taught the "Kyrie eleison" & "Sanctus" & "Agnus Dei" to my parishioners in my three parishes (& did that in my previous parishes)... & am now moving toward the "Pater Noster." I know other young priests doing likewise, Deo gratias Let's keep praying that more & more pastors take this initiative, inspired by the Holy Spirit, the clear instruction of Holy Mother Church, the correct implementation of Vatican II, &, of course, the witness of our great Holy Father, Pope Benedict XVI.

  • Posted by: - Aug. 22, 2005 12:57 PM ET USA

    Inspired idea!

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