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By Diogenes (articles ) | Jul 04, 2005

I sympathize with L.A. Catholic's suggestion of introducing a How Am I Presiding? 800-number to be prominently displayed on the back of every polyester chasuble. The problem, of course, is that the phone would never be answered at the other end. Still, it would sometimes be a relief to leave a really candid report on the Diocesan Liturgy Office answering machine, even in the knowledge that the gal who empties the ashtrays and wastebaskets was instructed to delete all messages unheard.

If your pastor put the question to you, what would you tell him?

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  • Posted by: Fr. William - Jul. 05, 2005 1:29 PM ET USA

    Phil: 1. Pray. Pray for the dissident, disobedient, arrogant priests & bishops who ignorantly think that they know better than Jesus & His Church. 2. Do as I have noted in the earlier post... with charity. 3. When you have to write to the Papal Nuncio & to Rome, make sure your letter is notarized & that you send it registered, if possible. Make copies of all correspondence. Pope Benedict XVI & Cardinal Arinze will respond... And remember, perseverance is a chief quality of the saints.

  • Posted by: - Jul. 05, 2005 12:10 PM ET USA

    Eleazar, that an unorthodox liturgy is better than no liturgy at all is true, but that is not my point. In fact, I despise disobedience of celebrant in celebration of liturgy, specifically the Eucharist. However the constant badgering priests endure causes one to remark that some people would be happier with a multiplicity of secretaries to handle their trashy mail than they would be with the service of a priest. What young man would be attracted to a priesthood constantly cannibalized by laity.

  • Posted by: Eleazar - Jul. 05, 2005 11:24 AM ET USA

    Pat, is your point that an unorthodox or corrupt liturgy is better than no liturgy at all?

  • Posted by: Phil - Jul. 05, 2005 8:00 AM ET USA

    That's good advice, A.O. But if your pastor and bishop ignore your entreaties (as they probably will; that's how the situation arose), then what? Yes the laymen have a "right" in canon law to proper liturgy. But if the right can't be vindicated, what does it mean?

  • Posted by: - Jul. 05, 2005 3:51 AM ET USA

    With regard to responding to the constant nagging of busybodies, I propose as a solution the situation in which many parished now find themselves. That is of having five secretaries and no priest.

  • Posted by: Fr. William - Jul. 04, 2005 5:57 PM ET USA

    As a pastor, I follow the Sacramentary, GIRM & Redemptionis Sacramentum. I offer Jesus Christ's Mass in His Church, according to the Rite He has given to us through His Church. n.b. If your pastor doesn't follow the Church's Rite, then tell him that he AND the bishop do not have the authority to change anything in the books (see RS 18, 27-28). Tell him that you have a Right to the Rites properly offered, so that you can fully participate in Jesus' Mass. If he ignores you, report him to Rome.

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