Please keep secret
By Diogenes (articles ) | Jun 23, 2005
The lead story from the BBC news report is a beauty:
A woman has been ordained as a priest in a secret ceremony in central Europe as an act of defiance against the Roman Catholic Church.
No, she wasn't ordained; she was playing pretend. Ordination is a sacrament, not an "act of defiance." And if the ceremony was so "secret," why are we hearing about it on BBC?
Read on, and you learn that it's the identity of the newly ordained "priestess" that is secret. She wants to be a priest; she vows to serve as a priest, but she freely admits that in fact she won't function as a priest, because if she tried, she'd lose her job as-- wait for it-- a religious-education teacher. (Let's pray that her poor students somehow acquire a better understanding of ordination than their instructor is demonstrating.)
As the farce continues, the poor dupe at BBC tells us:
The programme was told the ceremony and the words used were almost identical to those laid down by the Roman Catholic Church, including a number of vows taken by the ordinand, promising to take on the responsibilities of priesthood.
The ceremony was almost identical to a real ordination? Maybe-- in the same sense in which a food fight is almost identical to the Battle of Gettysburg.
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Posted by: -
Jun. 24, 2005 1:38 PM ET USA
This is the best line of the article (picture caption): "The woman will not be able publicly to admit to her priestly status." I wonder if it feels like being a secret agent, or being given a magical decoder ring? Maybe someone should inform her that the gift of the priesthood is to benefit the Church; and not to feel all giddy about an honorary title that you keep to yourself.
Posted by: parochus -
Jun. 24, 2005 2:53 AM ET USA
By the look of the vestments and art, I'd say the Ordination took place in Los Angeles.
Posted by: RC -
Jun. 24, 2005 1:25 AM ET USA
Here's a quote from the audio by the would-be ordinanda, now claiming to be a deacon: "I'm a strong person, and some women, they are in the ceremony, in the background, and I like to be in front of them, and I feel, when I was younger, that the place where the altar is, that's my place." Abp. Foley has it pegged: "There's a universal call to holiness in the Church... I hope that all of us would strive for holiness and not for power."
Posted by: Fatimabeliever -
Jun. 23, 2005 7:28 PM ET USA
And as a religious-education teacher she has been able to spread her errors to other unsuspecting young women who believe this is their right and this has been going on since the 50's. She SHOULD be fired because she thinks her rights are more important than what Jesus has proclaim about men being priest. If Jesus wanted women to be priest He would have made the Blessed Virgin Mary a priest but then in her foolishness she thinks she is better than Mary or she wouldn't be doing this!!
Posted by: -
Jun. 23, 2005 3:36 PM ET USA
Leo 13's question (2) is easily answered: Yes, the femi-nuns could have it all in the Epicopal church but their agenda is to tear the Catholic Church asunder! If they wanted to be priestesses the Episcopals would welcome them with open arms and open liturgies. But the priestess-wannabees are the latest tools from the pit designed to undermine God's ONE Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. They would not be happy as Episcopal priestesses and will only dance with glee if WE give in. We won't.
Posted by: Fiducia -
Jun. 23, 2005 11:57 AM ET USA
This European episode reflects a problem that I see as rampant in the Church in the U.S.: --- People in positions of trust at the parish or diocesan level who work to undermine the teachings of the Church. It's almost comforting to hear that she thought she might actually be fired !
Posted by: -
Jun. 23, 2005 11:47 AM ET USA
Unanswered questions: (1) Did the Danube Seven stage this photo-op for the BBC's benefit? (2) Why aren't these folks content with joining one of the Anglican churches, which welcomes priestesses? (3) Do they believe their secularist, feminist political agenda trumps the will of the Lord as expressed in over 2,000 years of Catholic tradition? (4) Do they reject the Petrine teaching authority?
Posted by: Venerable Aussie -
Jun. 23, 2005 11:33 AM ET USA
"Ordained?" "Defiance?" Words "almost" identical? Not sure what she or the journo have been inhaling, but I believe we have ourselves a "high" priestess and not even a Notional Catholic Reporter.
Posted by: patriot6908 -
Jun. 23, 2005 11:17 AM ET USA
Before I knew of the chicanery, I attended communion services led by mothers who were itching to be fathers. The dopey pastor allowed them to do almost everything except consecrate the host. These services replaced the masses. As a result, fewer and fewer people ever came until only a handful of those dedicated to turning a sacrament into a festivity remained. May these ladies never got to play "house" when they were little girls or, if they did, they got the role of daddy.
Posted by: -
Jun. 23, 2005 10:04 AM ET USA
Exactly. By analogy, I suppose I could walk into church one day, place an unconsecrated Host on the altar, open the missal, and read the exact words the priest does during the consecration. What would happen to the Host? NOTHING, because I am NOT a priest! Also, a priest must be consecrated by a validly ordained bishop so her claim is baseless. I LEFT the Episcopal church over this unscriptural mess of priestesses among other things.