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Who chose the hymn?

By Diogenes (articles ) | Dec 16, 2004

At the National Conference on Catholic Youth Ministry, held in Pittsburgh earlier this month, Bishop Wuerl presided at the closing Mass.

Here's the second verse from the hymn sung at the offertory, "A Place at the Table":

For women and man, a place at the table, revising the roles, deciding the share, with wisdom and grace, dividing the power, for woman and man, a system that's fair.

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  • Posted by: snowbird - Dec. 21, 2004 6:44 AM ET USA

    Nowadays, it doesn't have to be good music or doctrinally correct lyrics. If it's in English & will sell, it's guaranteed a place in every missalette in the country. Quantity [to make up for all the great music that has been thrown out] in place of Church quality is the word. Things won't change until godly Bishops do their jobs...until the people, too, demand orthodoxy in their worship; rejecting the "shows" that go on at most parishes in the country. Where is the sacred in worship? Gone!

  • Posted by: Pseudodionysius - Dec. 18, 2004 10:34 AM ET USA

    Perhaps the jellyfish Bishops, flopping around the altar with liturgical dance because they no longer swim in the River Jordan or Tiber or Nile, should rent Mel Gibson's Hamlet to see how the Dane dealt with the 3 witches, or the unsex me talk of Lady MacBeth.

  • Posted by: Vincit omnia amor - Dec. 17, 2004 11:29 PM ET USA

    Are those lyrics FOR REAL? Well, that's just plain sweet, ain't it? (lucky the folks got out of that one without a bolt from Heaven exploding in their midst.) yikes!

  • Posted by: AveMaria580 - Dec. 17, 2004 7:00 PM ET USA

    Men who are "terrorized" by women in the Church are showing wisdom. As a convert who didn't miss much on the way in, I have never encountered so many intellectually deficient, emotionally stunted and spiritually inane females as I have since entering the Catholic Church. I have been awed at times how much damage can be done by the inane when the men (read that bishops) haven't the sense spiritual or otherwise to deal with these women. It's the bishop who are terrified of these gender terrorists

  • Posted by: - Dec. 17, 2004 10:03 AM ET USA

    Was this intended to be a valid Mass? Were the rubrics completely ignored?

  • Posted by: Bernadone - Dec. 16, 2004 9:14 PM ET USA

    I wonder what there is about women that so terrorizes so many men in the Church? Such paranoia!

  • Posted by: - Dec. 16, 2004 7:52 PM ET USA

    Of course!!! Why was I so blind??!! It's Barry Manilow!! Barry Manilow has secretly converted and is now writing the songs for the novus. I happen to know, by the way, that he bases all his lyrics on the Kritik der Reinen Vernunft. Always has.

  • Posted by: - Dec. 16, 2004 7:40 PM ET USA

    As bad as you all think this..... it's worse.... run the phrase A place at the table on google and find out its gay code for the homosexual agenda. So the message is clear: we are not going after the homosexual perps of the abuse scandal.

  • Posted by: AveMaria580 - Dec. 16, 2004 5:55 PM ET USA

    In our diocese, these sorts of songs come from the femmes who colloborate with our bishop (chairman of the USCCB committiee on women who are maturity-challenged). A lot of slop gets into the Liturgy through this. We have 'gathering hymns'. I keep waiting for the old protestant hymn "Brining in the Sheaves." No has explained what's being gathered. As a child, when my mon made pork that smelled bad she said it was from garbage fed hogs. The mess comes from too much intellectual garbage.

  • Posted by: JWK - Dec. 16, 2004 4:35 PM ET USA

    Was it really called the "offertory hymn?" Or was it the "preparation song?"

  • Posted by: - Dec. 16, 2004 1:55 PM ET USA

    Abe--Nobody at the USCCB has enough class to be drinking 12-year-old single malt Scotch. My bet is they're sharing a nearly extinguished doobie in a roach clip and singing Lennon's "Imagine."

  • Posted by: - Dec. 16, 2004 12:27 PM ET USA

    Di: Did they make up these lyrics just for this one Mass, or is this another contemporary Jesuit composition? And could you inquire if the composer also has new and clever lyrics for Hail Holy "Queen"?

  • Posted by: Abraham Tolemahcs - Dec. 16, 2004 12:18 PM ET USA

    The song omits the transgendered. Does this "revising the roles" include Cross-dressing? I actually think there is a secret committee within the USCCB that sits around drinking 12 yr old single malt scotch plotting bizarre ideas to insert into the liturgy and creating new hymns just to see what they can get away with. 3 months later they regroup and discuss it to see who was able to pull it off with the least resistance. I'm not sure how they score it though.

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