Magistra, no (cont.)
By Diogenes (articles ) | Aug 15, 2004
And even by making the point ((inaccurately) that he usually agrees with the Church, Obey discloses that he actually does not agree with the Church in another, larger sense.
The Church claims to teach with inerrant authority on questions of faith and morals. If you accept that claim-- that is, if you are a faithful Catholic-- it makes no sense to say that you "agree" with the Church's teaching. You might say that you "accept" that teaching, on a question that is otherwise difficult to grasp. But you don't "agree" with an inerrant authority.
Thus you just wouldn't say, for instance: "I agree with the multiplication tables that 6 x 7 = 42." or even "I agree with the map that Main Street crosses Water Street just before the bridge."
Posted by: Gil125 -
Aug. 16, 2004 7:11 PM ET USA
I don't think you're quite right, Diogenes, when you say, "you just wouldn't say, for instance: "I agree with the multiplication tables that 6 x 7 = 42." or even "I agree with the map that Main Street crosses Water Street just before the bridge." " If you are a politician---with the arrogance of politicians---you might well say just that. Because if you choose to, you can pass a law saying that 6X7=50. And if you are of Mr. Obey's party, the press will not gainsay you.
Posted by: John J Plick -
Aug. 15, 2004 11:54 PM ET USA
And that is the point exactly, Diogenes. The Church is either a "truth-giver" or it is not. Once you contradict that principle, you are really no longer a Catholic.In fact you are worse than a pagan(if you don't leave), for the Church is scandalized and it would be made to appear that reality itself is split, or even broken into so many pieces, even so far as to deceive outsiders that within the Church a person could create their own "reality" arbitrarily out of their own personal prejudices