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On third and two, the Vatican punts.

By Diogenes (articles ) | Mar 23, 2004

Bishop Joseph Galante, the co-adjutor bishop of Dallas, has been named to head the Diocese of Camden, New Jersey, thus ending an impasse between Galante and the incumbent Bishop Charles Grahmann. Seattle's George Thomas was named Bishop of Helena, Montana.

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  • Posted by: Fr. William - Mar. 25, 2004 1:06 PM ET USA

    If my previous posting didn't make it, Mr. Plick, in the words of Gomer Pyle, Surprise, Surprise, Surprise! Courageously, humbly & with charity, after examining my own conscious in the Light of the Church, I do & have confronted brs. & bishops on matters of morality & obedience, knowing what a bishop could & could not do to me. And I pray with priests & study Church Teaching with them. Standing with Christ, His Church and His Sacraments, the Truth is our armor... & we will suffer with Jesus...

  • Posted by: John J Plick - Mar. 24, 2004 4:43 PM ET USA

    It is not a matter of either/or, LCP. So you are doing all these things? Fearlessly confronting your brothers and superiors regarding matters of morality and obedience? Forgive me, but why do I have my doubts? Most priests I know don't even gather together (with other priests) for communal prayer and personal sharing. You would confront a bishop knowing what he could do to you??? I would like to think so...but I think the odds would'nt be in my favor..., but who knows...surprise me! JP

  • Posted by: Fr. William - Mar. 24, 2004 1:05 PM ET USA

    Well, Mr. Plick, I am neither ambivalent nor indifferent. We should pray, go frequently to the Sacraments of the Eucharist and Penance.... then, directly confront the priest and/or bishop about their destructive words and/or behavior... and then, if necessary, write to the Papal Nuncio in Washington, DC, and/or the prefect Cardinal for the Congregation for the Clergy and/or the one for the Bishops in Rome... and trust that the Holy Spirit doesn't take any time off, yet some people do...

  • Posted by: Abraham Tolemahcs - Mar. 24, 2004 10:42 AM ET USA

    What CAN the laity do is a better question. Any feasible recommendations? Canon Law is apparently useless if Rome is going to allow Bishop Grahmann to pull that stunt. The bishops are behaving like organized crime; untouchable and beyond the law. And if the laity misbehaves, protests or ceases all monetary support, sacramental blackmail will be next. A handful of brave bishops or well positioned priests to help the laity pull back the curtain would be very helpful. Any takers????

  • Posted by: John J Plick - Mar. 24, 2004 9:36 AM ET USA

    But what will we DO, Lowly Country Priest??? Dynamic leadership in this situation does not seem to be a forte among the modern priesthood today. Priests passively enabled dysfunctional bishops during the Middle Ages with the result being the "protestant" "church." I hope you are not using "piety" and "holy obedience" as an excuse for indifference and ambivalence.

  • Posted by: Fr. William - Mar. 23, 2004 11:58 PM ET USA

    Let's pray for the Dioceses of Camden and Helena... that their new bishops will be strong and holy leaders, true to the Holy Father, the Magisterium, and the Teachings of the Church... and that they will be the successors to the Apostles that Almighty God is calling them to be.. as for Dallas, let's just pray for an openness to God's Grace... and may God have mercy on Bishop Grahmann's soul...

  • Posted by: Pseudodionysius - Mar. 23, 2004 10:05 PM ET USA

    There's some huge biceps being flexed at the Vatican weightroom these days. Feel the burn. No pain, no gain. Hard work is its own reward. Protecting the children is A-1. I assume that the same group that botched the soup recipe in "it is as it was" and goes all syrupy over ecumenical dialogue to the point of apologizing for being Catholic is responsible for this ringing performance of Augustinian fortitude. St Maximus Confessor had his tongue cut out; this crew has a forked one

  • Posted by: John J Plick - Mar. 23, 2004 9:46 PM ET USA

    Any man would be a fool to set his spiritual thermostat to Rome's temperature. Jesus says clearly in the Book of Revelation that "the lukewarm water I will spit out of my mouth." How many will survive from Vatican City is anyone's guess, but as for me I will not follow fools into Hell. Annointed they may be, but that holy oil will burn as a testimony against them.

  • Posted by: Abraham Tolemahcs - Mar. 23, 2004 2:56 PM ET USA

    Suppose a Commanding General decides to relieve a subordinate commander for incompetence but saves him the public humiliation and allows him to do a turnover with his relief and leave quietly. During this process the subordinate commander decides he wants to stay, he tells the CG to pound sand, he wants to keep his job and the CG agrees. Morale would plummet, the unit would quickly become "combat ineffective"(C-4) and would remain so until justice was served. AmChurch is C-3 heading to C-4.

  • Posted by: Abraham Tolemahcs - Mar. 23, 2004 2:36 PM ET USA

    Well that certainly sets a fine precedent. The words out I'm sure. Now should one of these notoriously liberal bishops decides to ordain a woman priest, don't sweat it. Rome doesn't have the stomach for a real fight. So much for obedience huh?

  • Posted by: Pseudodionysius - Mar. 23, 2004 11:23 AM ET USA

    Truth is certainly a butterknife rather than a sword. Its in the Gospels somewhere. Dissident Eye for the Diocese Guy.

  • Posted by: - Mar. 23, 2004 8:07 AM ET USA

    Well, congratulations, Diocese of Dallas!!! Parting is such sweet sorrow.

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