By Diogenes (articles ) | February 17, 2004 10:16 AM
Say you run a donut shop. You produce thousands of donuts every day. Mostly, they taste good.
Every once in a while, a customer charges that one of the donuts made him sick.
How often would this have to happen, before you realize that you have a serious problem on your hands?
Suppose 1 out of every 25 donuts became the subject of customer complaints. Would you agree that constituted a problem?
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Posted by: -
Feb. 18, 2004 2:16 PM ET USA
Why are these statistics reported in aggregate from the 1950's? It would be interesting to break them down further. It would really be interesting to know what percentage of priests in the last 20 to 30 years have been accused of molestation. I think the % of priests molesting kids was significantly less than 4% between 1950 and 1960. I also suspect that more than 4% of priests have been accused of doing the same in the last 20 or 30 years. Let's see the real nature of this bitter fruit.
Posted by: Canonigo Regular -
Feb. 18, 2004 2:57 AM ET USA
I never thought I'd be defending the Catholic Church in the U.S. against charges of gay clergy acting out, but the "20 out of 25" figure that jchrysostom posted is almost certainly confined to several religious orders, most noteable among them the largest - the Jesuits. Even then, if you take the older generations into account, you would surely have a lower percentage. However, it is good anecdotal evidence that the Jesuits have allowed a huge problem overtake their once morally strong order.
Posted by: -
Feb. 17, 2004 11:36 PM ET USA
do you really think that Cardinal Mahoney and a bunch of the other clandestine bishops are forthright about this? how many are just protecting their own butts? what about the cancer of sin hetero and homosexual in the clergy? what about religious orders? are their "honest" statistics included? what about the lazifare attitudes towards morality and dogma? what about plain and simple holiness? if there is such a thing as a remnant of faithful clergy,would you please fight & be something?
Posted by: principle not pragmatism -
Feb. 17, 2004 6:43 PM ET USA
Wow! Would this former seminarian go public with this? I know it would be tough but, the good that could come of it!
Posted by: -
Feb. 17, 2004 5:19 PM ET USA
Over ten years ago, a friend of mine entered the SJ novitiate in the California Province. He is the godfather of one my children and an honest man. He is also homosexual, a fact he revealed to us a few years ago. Of the eight entrants in the province that year, he later confided, all but one (himself) were active homosexuals, whose vows of chastity were lies. I remember that their novice master played show tunes after they made their profession two years later. 1/25? Try 20/25.
Posted by: Pseudodionysius -
Feb. 17, 2004 11:59 AM ET USA
"Victims groups reacted to the numbers with skepticism, saying that they believe not all of the victims have come forward and that they do not trust bishops to report allegations fully." I think that's something we can all agree on.