Peace, peace! But there is no peace.
By Diogenes (articles ) | Feb 15, 2004
When two men began handing out fliers at St. Paul Church in Harvard Square recently, they had a message that probably would not have raised an eyebrow in most Catholic parishes: Stop same-sex marriage. But St. Paul, the Catholic church affiliated with Harvard University, serves an academic community with a politically liberal streak, and several of the most active parishioners are openly gay. On a recent Sunday, before 11 o'clock Mass was over, one outraged parishioner threw many of the fliers into the sacristy's trash and tore down some of the signs adorning a booth, before breaking down in tears. A second churchgoer, too upset to sit through services, went home and wrote an open letter that he distributed after Mass, calling the distribution of the flier "an injustice."
Tears. Tantrums. Atrocity stories. The story from today's Boston Globe (thanks to Amy Welborn for the heads up) is an excellent illustration of the futility of finding common ground, or even peacable disagreement, in the conflict over gay liberation.
Note that instantly, without discussion, all the emotional real estate is claimed by the gays, so that their opponents cannot move in any direction without accusations of gratuitous malice. Even to suggest that these opponents might have comparably serious sentiments is itself an act of hostility. In theory, one might hope to dialogue in a mutually respectful fashion. In practice, those who oppose the gay agenda have two options: either they back down, or they're forced into a posture of aggression they did not intend and find personally distasteful -- simply in order to hold their own ground.
We're not talking about louts shouting cat-calls from the sidewalk opposite a gay bar, or crackers passing out God Hates Fags broadsheets in the church parking lot. This concerns a Catholic Harvard grad who got the antecedent permission of his own Harvard Square pastor to set up a table. In terms of chances for a negotiated peace, this is the optimal set-up. And it's dynamited before it begins.
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Posted by: -
Feb. 18, 2004 11:30 PM ET USA
To take a scene from the movie "Patton" - we're not interested in holding on to our ground. "We're not interested in holding on to anything - except the enemy. We're going to hold on to him by the nose, and we're going to kick him in the ass. We're going to kick the hell out of him all the time and we're going to go through him like crap through a goose! I honestly believe St. Jerome and St. Paul would applaud this approach to dealing with these evil people. Remember Sodom & Gomorrah.
Posted by: Sterling -
Feb. 17, 2004 11:33 PM ET USA
What amuses me is that if we threw a tantrum or began crying, the Globe wouldn't care. "Boo hoo, hoo, the nasty homosexuals won't let us vote!"
Posted by: -
Feb. 16, 2004 8:55 PM ET USA
"Homophobes" are primarily hetrosexual hip wanna-be folk who are terrified of being ostracized by "gay" people. They don't care if gays lose their souls -- as long as they, the straight I'm-oh-so-cool folk -- don't lose their own invitations to the right parties.
Posted by: frjimc -
Feb. 16, 2004 9:46 AM ET USA
WF's comment about the 'lawlessness' of the opposition is point on. One of the reasons that we lose so often (abortion, homosexuality, etc.) is that we're constrained by the Truth, while they are not. The number of bald-faced lies told by the opposition/Enemy is staggering! Just look at the beginnings of the contraception debate, then the outset of the abortion debate, and now the lies told by the homosexual lobby. The Prince of Darkness is obviously at work, he who is also "father of lies."
Posted by: -
Feb. 15, 2004 4:54 PM ET USA
The USCCB has published a stirring timely defense of marriage. http://www.usccb.org/flwy/manandwoman.htm That's the good news. The bad news is that document is buried deep in their site. You can only find it if you search by its exact name. Nowhere is it linked from any other page. So they have their strong position in case Rome comes looking.... but in reality they are hiding their position at this most critical time. All for show
Posted by: -
Feb. 15, 2004 3:58 PM ET USA
Satan isn't interested in a negotiated settlement. Neither are his minions: militant homosexuals, abortionists, drug traffickers, porn peddlers, Unitarians. As the San Francisco marriage perversion free-for-all showed, these people are lawless. They know we respect the law and twist it to use against us. Then they ignore it when it would refuse them what they desire. They only respect force. This is the path to civil war. Let's pray our president has the moral fortitude to put an end to this.
Posted by: Pseudodionysius -
Feb. 15, 2004 3:14 PM ET USA
The Gay movement has learned well from the writings of Theodore Adorno and the notorious "F" scale and "The Authoritarian Personality". Remember that Golden Oldie still alive and well today? To review, it is taken as Adornoite Gospel truth that a simple sequence of questions can establish that many conservatives and right wingers have more or less Fascist tendencies. Hence, just as the Adonoite's trout out "Fascist" and "Racist" as psychologically infallible labels, so goes "Homophobe".