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Can't we all get along?

By Diogenes (articles ) | Nov 11, 2003

The US bishops are getting really really unhappy about the number of Catholic politicians who support legalized abortion, the Boston Globe reports. They're thinking about taking action.

But Chicago's Cardinal Francis George reminds the Globe that bishops must keep unity within their flocks, as well as defend Church teachings. "It's the charism of unity that causes many of us to pause," he reports, when the calls come for sanctions against pro-abortion pols.

True, true. Just because Senator Foghorn endorses sucking the brains out of unborn children, and growing human beings so that they can be slaughtered and harvested for tissues, and sticking us taxpayers with the bill; and just because he calumniates any judicial candidate who dares to oppose the slaughter-- that's no reason to think that he's a threat to the unity of the Christian community. It's not as if he's promoting the Tridentine Mass, you know.

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  • Posted by: frjimc - Nov. 13, 2003 3:55 PM ET USA

    I have come to set the earth on fire, and how I wish it were already blazing! There is a baptism with which I must be baptized, and how great is my anguish until it is accomplished! Do you think that I have come to establish peace on the earth? No, I tell you, but rather division. From now on a household of five will be divided, three against two and two against three; a father will be divided against his son and a son against his father. You hypocrites...judge for yourselves what is right

  • Posted by: Fatimabeliever - Nov. 12, 2003 4:53 PM ET USA

    I hope Cardinal George will read all your comments. Also, I hope his fellow Bishops will do the same! Reading the comments on these boards might give them the fortitude to do what needs to be done. Take the time, to talk to these (?) Catholics and remind them, they are risking ex-communication if they do not stop spouting heresy. Don't let their sizeable donations influence decisions. God will find a way.

  • Posted by: Pseudodionysius - Nov. 12, 2003 1:28 PM ET USA

    This Unity at any price, reminds of Peace at any price.

  • Posted by: frjimc - Nov. 12, 2003 8:18 AM ET USA

    In the face of evil, silence equals complicity. From those to whom much is given, much is required. We Catholics -- ALL of us -- have the responsibility of speaking out, clearly and distinctly, against these great evils that diminish our society. Yes, the one who freely chooses evil assumes for him/herself, but how much more culpable are those of us who fail to intercede? We, with more information and faith, HAVE TO proclaim the truth. Failing to do so imperils our own immortal souls.

  • Posted by: - Nov. 12, 2003 7:47 AM ET USA

    "The bishops said they were prompted to act by a document issued in January by Pope John Paul II..." Let's see, it's now November - I guess the 'prompting' took awhile to sink in, huh? And their 'act' is to form a taskforce to present "guidelines" which will be debated ad nauseum at the next conference. This is 'acting'...? Well yes - but more in the nature of stagecraft than men of conviction moving purposefully to accomplish something. "Words to the heat of deeds too cold breath bring..."

  • Posted by: - Nov. 12, 2003 12:29 AM ET USA

    If thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out. (Jesus' sentiment on "unity" with evil.)

  • Posted by: - Nov. 11, 2003 8:29 PM ET USA

    Fatima believer. Anyone who is lost, does so all by themselves. God gives us free will and enough graces to do his will. One loses his soul through his own fault.

  • Posted by: - Nov. 11, 2003 8:17 PM ET USA

    I'm not sure Cardinal George is worried about reprimanding Catholic politicians for promoting abortion as much as he is with the fact that most of the politicians he will be reprimanding will be Democrats. A public showdown between the Bishops and the pro-abortion Catholics could very well give a political advantage to the Republicans. Ironically, if the Bishops had dealt with this problem years ago, the Democratic party might not be the party of "abortion and homosexual unions" that it is now

  • Posted by: Fatimabeliever - Nov. 11, 2003 4:17 PM ET USA

    I personally think what Cardinal George is trying to say is we don't want a split in the Church in America. We are trying to get through to them what is wrong but we the Cardinals and Bishops must handle these problems with love and compassion like Jesus would do. I'm sure he wants us to pray for him and the other Bishops. Pray for the Church. Pray for quidance. God doesn't want anyone lost.

  • Posted by: AveMaria580 - Nov. 11, 2003 1:27 PM ET USA

    Cardinal George has done some good. He at least is cautious about inclusive language which is greatly in his favor. However, this comment about unity makes nonsense. If you have people endorsing gross immorality and murder (abortion) you have already lost unity. To refrain from disciplining such people is like saying I know I have cancer but I won't have it removed because it's part of my body. It is but it shouldn't be because if left alone it will destroy the entire body.

  • Posted by: shrink - Nov. 11, 2003 12:07 PM ET USA

    Diogenes, your sniping at Cdl George is a cheap shot, which is also wide of the mark. Yes, Cdl George is simply one of the hosts of bishops who fail the test of disciplining politicians under the guidance (or rather, spell) of the unity charism (we love our bishops). Yet, at least on this issue, Cdl George has been supportive of the Tridentine movement in Chicago. Do pick your targets more carefully!

  • Posted by: - Nov. 11, 2003 11:17 AM ET USA

    The who? Oh right, bishops. I'd forgotten that we had any. It's been so long since there's been leadership in the Church, that I thought we had gone congregational or something. Didn't Vatican II do away with bishops? But then, I guess somebody's been littering the Church narthex with those pastoral letters on breakfast, matching socks and yoga as a way of builiding community. Good thing, too. When I came out of the bathroom last Sunday my hands were still wet because there weren't any towels...

  • Posted by: - Nov. 11, 2003 9:42 AM ET USA

    Mod bishops talk about a decentralized Church. But when time comes for action they temporize forever. 11 months ago JPII is forced to repeat the obvious again and they say they may get serious. Baloney! Anyone who denies the 5th Command and calls it good no longer holds to the Catholic Faith. Acknowledge all who deny it are no longer Catholic and are not entitled to the Eucharist. Why incur all the oprobrium of debate? Just do it for Heaven's sake. Cdl G's comment about unity is absurd.

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